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          EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THIS BEAUTIFUL MONDAY MORNING. IT IS 9 A.M. MONDAY, JULY 27TH. WE'RE HERE IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM FOR A REGULAR MEETING OF THE JOHNSON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. PRESENT ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, AS WELL AS OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS NECESSARY FOR TODAY'S BUSINESS. I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES. LORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME TOGETHER. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER US AND GUIDE US. WE PRAY, LORD, FOR YOUR DISCERNMENT IN DECIDING MATTERS TODAY. AND WE PRAY FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS WHERE WE FAIL YOU. WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME. AMEN. AMEN, AMEN. PLEASE JOIN US IN PLEDGE THE FLAGS. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK 
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YOU. YOU CAN BE SEATED. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH A COUPLE OF PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM P ONE. THIS IS ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REGARDING COUNTY AND PRECINCT EVENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING, JUDGE? I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A SAD ANNOUNCEMENT. WE LOST A A A COLLEAGUE, A PEER IN BOSQUE COUNTY COMMISSIONER RONNIE LARDON, PRECINCT FOUR COMMISSIONER IN BOSQUE COUNTY, PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK AND SADDENED TO HEAR THAT NEWS. YOU KNOW, IN THIS BUSINESS, WE DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS, ESPECIALLY WITH ADJOINING COUNTIES. AND HE WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK COMMISSIONER BAILEY AND I ESPECIALLY HAD PRETTY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH. 
          AND HE WAS IN HIS THIRD TERM AND WAS KILLED IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT. AND VERY SAD TO HEAR THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE HERE IN HIS IN HIS HONOR AND MEMORY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THOUGHT OUR CONFERENCE WAS EDUCATIONAL AND WELL NEEDED. AND WITH ALL OF THAT, WE HAVE THE TOPICS THAT WERE DISCUSSED. AND REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN THE CONTROVERSY NOW FOR SOME TIME IN REGARDS TO DATA CENTERS, I HAD TO LEAVE EARLY TO GET TO AUSTIN TO BECAUSE THE INTERIM IS GOING ON. SO, YOU KNOW, MORE NEWS, NOT REALLY GOOD NEWS, BUT IT APPEARS THAT ON THE FARM TO MARKET ROADS WHERE THERE'S $4 BILLION WAS ALLOCATED, THEY'RE GOING TO CUT IT TO ONE FOR THE WHOLE STATE. 
          SO THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND TRY TO CLAW BACK SOME OF THAT MONEY, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS REGION WITH ALL THIS GROWTH. 
          BUT DATA CENTERS IS THE TOPIC THERE AS WELL. AND EXPECTING THAT MOST OF THE, IF NOT ALL OF THE UPCOMING SESSION, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY BILLS ARE PRESENTED, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PRECEDENCE. AND SO GEARING UP FOR THAT WITH THE COOK, WITH ADAM HAYNES AND JIM ALLISON AND YOU GUYS ALL SEEN HIM THERE. BUT THE SPEAKERS AND AND SOME OF THAT. SO JUST FOR THOSE LISTENING, THOSE HERE, IT'S NOT JUST IN JOHNSON COUNTY, IT'S NOT JUST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          IT'S ALL OVER. AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS AND, AND WAYS TO BEST PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS, WAYS TO BEST PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, MAINLY WATER. AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING HARD ALONG WITH THE LEGISLATORS DOWN THERE TO FIND WHAT FITS. 
          BECAUSE ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL. AND HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME GOOD DURING THIS NEXT SESSION. REGARDING THAT. THANK YOU JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST A COMMENT ON THAT. IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY WHITTLED THAT THAT STATE ROAD FUND DOWN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WE HAD A REAL WARM VIBE AT THE LAST SESSION WHEN WE TESTIFIED FOR THE COUNTY COUNTY ROAD GRANT FUND. AND MAN, WHEN WE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM, WE THOUGHT WE HAD THAT KIND OF SEWED UP AND NOT ONE PENNY WAS FUNDED. SO IF THEY'RE ALREADY WHITTLING ON THE STATE ROADS, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING. KENNY AND I WERE WE JUST HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION. 
          YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT HE'S GOT BRIDGES ON FARM TO MARKET ROADS THAT ARE THAT ARE AGED OUT. WE 
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ALL DO YOU KNOW, THE BRIDGES IS IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND AGING. AGED OUT BRIDGES COME AT A TERRIBLE, TREMENDOUS COST. AND SO WHEN YOU START WHITTLING THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS OUT OF A STATEWIDE BUDGET ON FARM TO MARKET ROADS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WATCH THAT. JIM SAYS, WE WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OF IT. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CLAW SOME OF THAT BACK. YEAH. I HEARD ONE OF THOSE COMMISSIONERS LAST WEEK AT THE CONFERENCE. HE WAS SINGING THE BLUES BECAUSE HE HAD THREE BRIDGES. I TOLD HIM, I SAID, YOU NEED TO BE HAPPY. I HAVE 33. SO ON COUNTY ROADS. SO THAT'S NEED TO COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS. 
          YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER. I WANT TO PICK UP WITH ITEM P THREE. IT'S AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF MAJOR TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BY JENNIFER VANDERLINDE, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I CAN OFFER THAT WE'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT DATA CENTERS. WE STILL HAVE NOT ISSUED ANY PERMITS. NO PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED AS OF THIS TIME. WE DO STILL HAVE ONE THAT WENT THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE THAT WE'VE INVITED TO ATTEND AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS REGARDING DATA CENTERS. NO ONE HAS ACCEPTED THE INVITATION AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GOES. COUNTY ENGINEER MR. FRIEDRICH HAS SOME UPDATES FOR YOU ON THE TRANSPORTATION BOND. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS REGARDING THE TRANSPORTATION BOND PROGRAM. TOMORROW AFTERNOON, WE WILL BE KICKING OFF THE PROJECT 4.1, WHICH IS FM 917. FROM JOSHUA TO EAGAN. THEY HAVE THEY'RE ALREADY BEGINNING SURVEY. THEY WILL BE DOING LIDAR SURVEY WITH HELICOPTERS, I THINK BEGINNING THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK. AND THEN FOR PROJECT 3.1, WHICH IS THE EAGAN RAILROAD CROSSING, WE HAVE ENTERED INTERVIEWS FOR THE TOP THREE FIRMS FROM THE RFQ ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. AMONG OTHER PROJECTS. WE HAVE, OF COURSE, COUNTY ROAD 11, 19 AND 67 UNDERWAY. THE GODLEY FEASIBILITY STUDY TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE WITH THOSE FM ROADS GOING THROUGH THERE, 67 AND 35 FEASIBILITY STUDY IS UNDERWAY AS WELL, AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, IF NOT VERY EARLY NEXT YEAR, AND THEN ALSO RENFROE. 
          THE WIDENING IS STILL IS UNDER DESIGN, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE COMPLETED THIS END OF THIS YEAR EARLY NEXT YEAR AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS. AND WE WE HAVE THAT QUARTERLY MEETING WITH TXDOT AND MR. WOOLLEY AND REST OF US SHOW UP, PUT IN A FEW OTHER LOCAL REQUESTS FOR LOCAL MATCH DOLLARS IF WE CAN, FOR ILLUMINATION, POSSIBLY. MAYBE NOT A SIGNAL, BUT SOME SORT OF CAUTION LIGHT THERE AT THE ELKS LODGE, 1434 AND 67. THAT'S BECOMING A PRETTY, PRETTY TROUBLESOME SPOT AS WELL. SO I THINK I THINK WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL AS PART OF THIS PLAN. THANKS, KLINGER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. FREDERICK. 
          MISS VANDERLIN. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM PA2. THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION. JOHNSON COUNTY PURPLE HEART MEDAL RECIPIENTS DAYS OF HONOR WITH MARTY PETERS, AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY. AND ASK THE COURT TO JOIN ME IN THE WELL, ALONG WITH OUR HONOREES TODAY. THEY HAVE TO STAND IN ORDER. IT'S STATE LAW. IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HONOR PURPLE HEART MEDAL RECIPIENTS, WHEREAS THE PURPLE HEART IS THE OLDEST MILITARY DESIGNATION STILL IN USE AND WAS INITIALLY CREATED BY GEORGE WASHINGTON IN 1782 AS THE BADGE OF MILITARY MERIT. AND WHEREAS THE PURPLE HEART WAS THE FIRST AMERICAN SERVICE AWARD MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMON SOLDIER AND IS AWARDED TO ANY MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED SERVICES, WOUNDED OR KILLED IN COMBAT WITH A DECLARED ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES, AND RECOGNIZES THE SPIRIT OF VOLUNTEERISM AND SELFLESS DEDICATION OF THE 
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AVERAGE AMERICAN, WHICH HAS BEEN SO FUNDAMENTAL TO THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE. AND GENERAL JOHN PERSHING SUGGESTED A NEED FOR AN AWARD FOR MERIT IN 1918. BUT IT WAS NOT UNTIL 1932 THAT THE PURPLE HEART WAS CREATED. AND WHEREAS COUNTLESS AMERICANS HAVE BEEN WOUNDED IN COMBAT WHILE DEFENDING OUR GREAT NATION AGAINST ARMED ENEMIES, IT IS THE MOST FITTING THAT THIS SPECIAL GROUP OF VETERANS BE RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR NATION'S SECURITY, AND THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 1.9 MILLION PURPLE HEARTS AWARDED SINCE 1782 FOR THEIR SACRIFICE IN THE NAME OF OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS AMERICAN LEGION POSTS 426 AND 50 AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY UNITS 426 AND 50 SQUADRON 50 OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN LEGION SQUADRONS 24, 26 AND 50 OF. AND CHAPTER 1867 OF THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART HAVE CHOSEN TO RECOGNIZE THE NATIONAL DAY OF RECOGNITION OF THE PURPLE HEART, DESIGNATING AUGUST 7TH, 2026 AS A DAY TO REMEMBER, RECOGNIZE AND HONOR PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS AND WILL CONDUCT A CEREMONY ON SUNDAY, AUGUST 9TH AT 2 P.M. AT POST 426, LOCATED AT 8500 FM 3136 IN ALVARADO. AND WHEREAS, JOHNSON COUNTY IS A DESIGNATED PURPLE HEART COUNTY AND HAS OVER 14,000 VETERANS, MANY OF WHOM ARE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS, AND THE ORGANIZATION HEREIN NAMED WISH. ORGANIZATIONS HEREIN NAMED WISH TO PLEDGE STRONG SUPPORT FOR THESE NOBLE ORGANIZATIONS AND FOR THOSE WHO PUT THEIR LIVES AT RISK IN SERVICE OF THEIR COUNTRY AND THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS. OBSERVING PURPLE HEART DAY HELPS RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF WAR ON VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES, HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING THEM WITH THE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES THEY NEED TO LEAD FULFILLING LIVES AFTER THEIR SERVICE. NOW, THEREFORE, THE JOHNSON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY PROCLAIMS AUGUST 7TH THROUGH NINTH, 2026 AS JOHNSON COUNTY PURPLE HEART MEDAL RECIPIENTS DAYS OF HONOR AND FURTHER URGE RESIDENTS OF JOHNSON COUNTY TO DISPLAY PURPLE RIBBONS AND DECORATIONS TO SHOW HONOR AND GRATITUDE TO THE PURPLE HEART VETERANS, ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. OVER HERE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY? ARE THERE ANY VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE? PLEASE STAND AND LET'S APPLAUD THEIR SERVICE AS WELL. PURPLE HEART VETERANS, OF COURSE, WERE WOUNDED IN COMBAT AND ARE VERY SPECIAL TO ALL OF US, AS ARE ALL VETERANS. SO WE ASK THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES TAKE A FEW MOMENTS ON SUNDAY, THE SEVENTH, TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN WOUNDED IN COMBAT, AND THEN ON THE NINTH, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, ALVARADO BECAUSE THEY ARE, OF COURSE, HERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY AND CLEBURNE, ALTERNATE YEARS AS TO WHERE WE HOLD THE CELEBRATION AND THE RECOGNITION. SO THIS IS ALVARADO'S TURN THIS YEAR TO BE THE LOCATION. SO PLEASE JOIN US AT 2:00 ON THE NINTH, HAVE A FEW REFRESHMENTS WITH US. GET TO MEET THESE AND OTHER PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS, SEE IF THEY'LL BE WILLING TO TELL THEIR STORIES. SOME DO, SOME DO NOT. SOME ARE NOT REAL COMFORTABLE. EVEN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS TELLING WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH. BUT REGARDLESS, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, JUDGE. AND WHEN YOU SEE THE PURPLE RIBBONS ON THE TREES ON THE CORNER ON THE WEEKEND OF THE SEVENTH, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FOR. AND YOU CAN TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHY THEY'RE AROUND THE COURTHOUSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU JUDGE. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. I HAVE HAD ONE 
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PERSON TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK TODAY. I'M GOING TO INVITE JUDY FOSTER FORWARD. MISS FOSTER, IF YOU WOULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND I'LL REMIND YOU, YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COURT ONCE YOU GET STARTED. OKAY. I HAVE SOME PETITIONS TO GIVE. YOU ARE SIGNED AND SOME PHOTOS TO GIVE YOU, DO I IF YOU WOULD HAND THOSE TO MISS VANDERLYN DOWN HERE, SHE CAN TAKE ONE AND PASS IT DOWN. WE WE LEARNED IN GRADE SCHOOL PRETTY WELL. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. YES, MA'AM. DIFFERENT ROADS. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE? OKAY. MY NAME IS JUDY FOSTER. 111112 CHESTNUT DRIVE AND VENOUS. I'VE LIVED THERE ABOUT 18.5 YEARS. MY PURPOSE TODAY IS TO COMMENT ON THE TERRIBLE ROAD CONDITIONS OF TWO COUNTY ROADS AND VENOUS IN JOHNSON COUNTY THAT ARE DESPERATE, IN DESPERATE NEED OF MAJOR REPAIRS. THESE TWO ROADS ARE COUNTY ROAD 501 AND CHESTNUT DRIVE. ALSO ON THE TWO ROADS. I'M SUBMITTING TWO SEPARATE SIGNED PETITIONS FROM OTHER LOCAL RESIDENTS REQUESTING THESE REPAIRS. PROBABLY RESURFACING. ALSO, I'M PROVIDING SEPARATE PHOTOS OF CHESTNUT DRIVE ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF BLOCKS. DISTANCE AND SEPARATE PHOTOS OF YOUR OR THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 501, ROUGHLY A HALF A MILE DISTANCE, SHOWING THE POTHOLES AND SUNKEN SIDES OF TWO ROADS. I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE VENUS CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING THEIR PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 501. I ALSO SPOKE TO ALFRED AT TEXAS DOT ABOUT THE ENTRANCE PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 501 AT FM 157 THAT I WAS TOLD THAT WAS THE STATE'S PORTION OF THE ROAD. 
          AFTER I VISITED THE VENUS CITY AND PRECINCT THREE COUNTY OFFICES A WHILE BACK LOOKING FOR AN OFFICIAL PETITION FORM FOR STREET REPAIRS. THERE WAS NOT. BUT BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY CAME QUICKLY AND FILLED HOLES IN UNEVENLY PACKED SOME OF THE SPOTS, MAKING BUMPS INSTEAD OF CHUCKHOLES. SADLY, RAIN AND WINTER WEATHER WILL REOPEN THE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF ROAD PATCHES THAT WERE MADE. ONCE AGAIN, NOT A SOLUTION. I'VE TAKEN IT 18.5 YEARS NOW. 
          BOTH ROADS REALLY NEED TO BE RESURFACED, ESPECIALLY COUNTY ROAD. COUNTY ROAD 501 HAS BEGAN BECOME DANGEROUS FOR EVERYDAY DRIVING. EVERYONE WANTS THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO AVOID THE SUNKEN PARTS AND BRIDGES FULL OF HOLES AND CRACKS. THE DRIVERS PLAY CHICKEN UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT AND THEY SCARE ME TO DEATH. OH, THAT'S NOT HERE. MANY NON RESIDENTS USE COUNTY ROAD 501 FOR A SHORT STOP SHORTCUT TO SKIP THE LIGHT AT HIGHWAY 67. IT'S BECOME A TRAFFIC JAM THERE AND EVER THEY GO DOWN 501 TO SKIP THAT RED LIGHT. AND PERSONALLY I'VE HAD ENOUGH RIM DAMAGES AND FRONT END ALIGNMENTS. IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING. AND I BELIEVE SINCE YOUR NEW BUDGET YEAR BEGINS OCTOBER 1ST AND PLANS ARE BEING MADE FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE, I AND MY FELLOW PETITIONERS RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ROAD BUDGET PANEL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER A FULL RESURFACING OF CHESTNUT DRIVE AND THE COUNTY PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 501. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE CAN'T REALLY RESPOND TO WHEN YOU MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR COUNTY ENGINEER, MR. FRIEDRICH, TO 
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STEP IN THE HALLWAY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD CONTACT INFORMATION FROM YOU. I THINK EVERYTHING WAS IN WHAT YOU GAVE US, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION. WE HAVE COMPLETE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROADS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PETITIONS. YOU'VE GOT MY STATEMENT BECAUSE I MAY FORGET SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT PHOTOS. 
          YOU CAN KEEP THE PHOTOS. I HAVE MY OWN COPIES. THAT'S PROOF THAT SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE DONE. 
          YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA. AS A REMINDER, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS THAT ARE NOT TYPICALLY DISCUSSED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ORDINARY BUSINESS OR HOUSEKEEPING MEASURES. TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM C ONE THROUGH CA30. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED? ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR WISH TO DRAW ANY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO ANY SPECIFIC ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CA25. THIS IS A MEDICAL EXPENSE THAT WAS INCURRED AT THE JAIL FOR DIALYSIS. THAT'S JUST NOW BEING PRESENTED. THAT WAS. THIS TOOK PLACE IN NOVEMBER OF 25. 
          YEAH, I'LL I'LL SEE IF I CAN EXPLAIN THAT, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THERE WAS AN INMATE THAT NEEDED THE DIALYSIS BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 25. AND SO WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THAT PROVIDER AT THAT TIME, BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND PROVIDED THE SERVICE. WE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD JUST INVOICE US AND WE WOULD PAY THAT. THEY NEVER DID REALLY INVOICE US IN. AFTER JANUARY, WE DID ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROVIDER, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD COVER THE PROCEDURE THAT THEY DID BACK IN NOVEMBER, BUT THEY CONTACTED US AND SAID, NO, THEY WANTED A PARTICULAR CONTRACT FOR THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE BECAUSE IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE'VE BACKED UP NOW, AND WE HAVE THIS CONTRACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PROVIDED THE SERVICE FOR BACK IN NOVEMBER, AND WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM NOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO COVER THINGS FROM JANUARY FORWARD. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS BELATED CONTRACT. IT'S A TIME OF THE TREATMENT WHICH I ASSUME WAS SOMEWHAT OF AN EMERGENCY. YES SIR. YES SIR. AND THEY AND TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY DID PROVIDE THE SERVICE. LIKE I SAID, WE THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST GOING TO INVOICE US WITHOUT A CONTRACT. BUT AND WE THOUGHT, TOO, THAT THE NEW CONTRACT IN JANUARY WOULD COVER IT. BUT THEY. BECAUSE IT BEING IN A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR FOR THEM, NOT US, BUT FOR THEM, THEY WANTED A NEW CONTRACT. OKAY. WELL THAT MAKES SENSE. I, I, IT JUST SEEMED IT JUST KIND OF STUCK OUT AND SEEMED ODD THAT IT WAS THAT OLD. BUT THAT, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I WILL, I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON CA27. IT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF A NEW VEHICLE THAT'S I'M NOT GOING OUT AND JUST BUYING NEW VEHICLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. THAT'S TO REPLACE ONE THAT GOT TOTALED OUT THIS SUMMER. SO I THINK THERE'S AN ACTION ITEM ON IT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WILLEY. SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. THE CONSENT AGENDA CARRIES 
          [ACTION ITEMS]
UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR ACTION AGENDA. MOVE TO ITEM A ONE CONSIDER AND APPROVE BILL RUN FOR COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS FEES. COMMISSIONER BAILEY, DO YOU MIND HANDLING THAT? SURE. GENTLEMEN. ACTION ITEM A1 CONSIDER. APPROVE BILL, RUN FOR COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES. GET A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HALE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. JUDGE ABSTAINS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM A2. CONSIDER AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS AND PROPOSALS. 
          ANYTHING TODAY, MR. ANDERSON? YES, SIR. ONE ITEM TODAY. EXCUSE MY VOICE. WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST TO ADVERTISE FOR RFP 2026-302 FOR UNIFORM PRODUCTS FOR JOHNSON COUNTY. OUR CURRENT CONTRACT IS EXPIRING LATER THIS YEAR, AND THAT WAS 2026-302. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ADVERTISING FOR THAT, MR. ANDERSON I APOLOGIZE. 
          I KNOW IT PROBABLY NOT COMFORTABLE SPEAKING WITH YOUR VOICE SOUNDING LIKE THAT. CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ADVERTISING FOR? YEAH. IT'S A IT'S THEY HANDLE YOU. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH JUST RIGHT FOR PROMOTIONS. IT EXPIRES AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEY PROVIDE UNIFORMS FOR, I BELIEVE, JAILERS AND SOME OF THE. SO AND THAT KIND OF THING. THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON. IT WAS 302. YES, SIR. MOVE TO MOVE TO 
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APPROVE THE RF RFP. 23-32026-302 FOR UNIFORMS AND ASSOCIATED ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. 
          I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOWELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN AND A TWO CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM A3 CONSIDERING APPROVE ORDER 2026-68. PROHIBITION OF OUTDOOR BURNING. YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WEAR YOUR UNIFORM WHEN YOU ASKED FOR A BURN BAN. I AT THE AT THE DRY CLEANERS, JUDGE. THANK YOU COURT FOR HAVING ME. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING OUR FUELS FOR OVER A MONTH NOW. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO PUSH OFF THE LAST BURN BAN WHEN WE GOT FIVE INCHES OF RAIN. BUT AS YOU ALSO KNOW, THAT ONE, OUR FUELS ARE AREN'T AFFECTED FOR VERY LONG BY RAIN OR MOISTURE HUMIDITY. THEY CHANGE VERY, VERY QUICKLY. AND WITH 100 DEGREE DAYS, WE'RE NOW IN A POSITION WHERE OUR FINE FUELS OR OUR ONE, OUR FUELS ARE, ARE REALLY READY TO BURN. AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN THIS PAST WEEK. SO I PROVIDED YOU SOME OUTLOOKS FOR THE ONE AND TEN. OUR FUELS BOTH THAT'S HERE. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE WE SIT WITH THOSE. WE'RE FORTUNATE IN SOME RESPECT THAT OUR LIVE FUELS, OUR LARGER LIVE FUELS, THE TREES, ETC. ARE DOING WELL, BUT THE GRASS IS NOT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NO FORECASTED RAIN FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND A LOT OF FORECASTED 100 DEGREE DAYS. SO IT WOULD BE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S POSITION THAT WE IMPLEMENT A BURN BAN. WE WOULD LIKE TO START THAT ON THE 29TH, WHICH IS WEDNESDAY, SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ADDITIONAL NOTICE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MARSHAL MOORE? HE'S DROPPING THE BALL. USUALLY IT STARTS RAINING ON THE DAY. I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE HISTORICALLY WE'RE EITHER YOU'RE EITHER TWO WEEKS EARLY OR TWO WEEKS LATE PUTTING IN A BURN BAN. BUT AT THIS TIME, I THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY. THAT LAST ONE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE THAT RAIN THAT KIND OF REPLENISHED OUR DID A LITTLE GREEN UP. BUT I AGREE IT'S TIME. SO I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT AND APPROVE THIS ORDER. 2026-68 ON A BURN BAN, EFFECTIVE 8 A.M. WEDNESDAY MORNING, JULY 29TH. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES CARRY UNANIMOUSLY. SO A BURN BAN WILL BE IN EFFECT ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. THANK YOU MARSHALL. THANK YOU. THERE'S A HINT A LITTLE MOISTURE NEXT WEEK ALREADY ON THE RADAR. BUT MAYBE WE'LL SEE. I HOPE IT GETS HERE. 
          WE GET A LITTLE RAIN AND IT'S 104. IT MAY JUST TURN TO STEAM. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO SKIP OUR NEXT ITEM FOR NOW. I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOMEBODY FROM COTTON VALLEY JOINING US. AND I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM A FIVE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THIS IS CONSIDER AND APPROVE RESOLUTION 2026-13 RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE JOHNSON COUNTY PACE PROGRAM. I KNOW WE HAVE MR. MINICK HERE FROM TEXAS PACE. AS A REMINDER, THE PACE PROGRAM IS A. THE PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM. IT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ONLY WHO ARE UNDERGOING REMODELING PROJECTS TO TAKE ON SPECIAL FINANCING TO FINANCE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTY. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO SAVE MONEY ON ELECTRICITY OR WATER, OTHER UTILITIES, AND THEY HAVE TO SAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES, SO THEY'RE CASH FLOW POSITIVE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY A THIRD PARTY, BUT ULTIMATELY HAS TO BE AUTHORIZED BY THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ITEM FURTHER DOWN OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS APPROVING COLLECTIONS THROUGH PURDUE. 
          BRANDON. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW. 
          WE'VE HAD A REPORT POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS SHOWING THE DATA THAT BACKS THIS PROGRAM UP, AS WELL AS THE INS AND OUTS OF THAT PROGRAM. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. IT IS 9:29 A.M. WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 2026-13, AND NOTICE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, AS WELL AS IN OUR AGENDA AND ON THE WEBSITE. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE PACE PROGRAM, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE 
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NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THEN I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION. JUDGE. I MOVE WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION 2026-13 JOHNSON ESTABLISHING THE JOHNSON COUNTY PACE PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN AND ITEM A5 CARRIES 4 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER BAILEY VOTING AGAINST. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM A6 CONSIDERING APPROVE SERVICES AGREEMENT BUYING BETWEEN THE JOHNSON COUNTY, TEXAS BY AND BETWEEN JOHNSON COUNTY, TEXAS AND TEXAS. 
          PROPERTY ASSESSMENT AND ENERGY AUTHORITY WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNTY ATTORNEY TO SIGN. THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THAT WILL OFFICIALLY PUT TEXAS PROPERTY ASSESSED. 
          TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY IN CHARGE OF ADMINISTERING THE PACE PROGRAM SO THAT THERE IS NO STAFF BURDEN ON THE COUNTY. THE INTENT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT IS TO. IF ANYBODY COMES TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR MY OFFICE, LOOK. LOOKING TO WORK WITH THE PACE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD BE REFERRED TO TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY SO THAT WE DON'T NEED A PERSON IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHO'S AN EXPERT ON THIS PROGRAM THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE USED HEAVILY. WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE HAVE MR. MINICK FROM TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR HIM OR FOR MY OFFICE? ALL RIGHT. THEN I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A6 MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOWELL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN AND ITEM A6 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM A7, WHICH IS A ANOTHER RELATED ITEM. CONSIDER AND APPROVE RESOLUTION 2026-14 RESOLUTION FOR COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT PAYMENTS UNDER THE PACE PROGRAM. THIS IS WHAT AUTHORIZES COLLECTIONS. IF A LOAN UNDER THE PACE PROGRAM GOES DELINQUENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT THEN I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A7. MOVE TO APPROVE. JUDGE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOWELL. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN I. ITEM A7 CARRIES 4 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER BAILEY VOTING AGAINST. MOVE TO ITEM A8. CONSIDER AND APPROVE A CONTINGENT FEE CONTRACT WITH PERDUE, BRANDON FIELDER, COLLINS AND MOTT LLP PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE FOR THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT PACE ASSESSMENTS. 
          AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT AND APPROVE THE WRITTEN FINDINGS AS TO THE CONTRACT. NOTICE OF SAID CONTRACT IS POSTED WITH THE AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2254 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. AGAIN, MR. MEDLEY IS HERE FROM PERDUE BRANDON TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS WHAT AUTHORIZES PERDUE BRANDON TO HANDLE ANY COLLECTIONS THAT MAY ARISE UNDER THE PACE PROGRAM. MR. MEDLEY JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. 
          AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE ABILITY OF THE PACE PROGRAM TO MAKE THESE LOANS FOR CLEAN ENERGY IS BASED ON A SPECIAL LIEN, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIEN, WHICH WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE BY THE COUNTY AND IS FINANCED THROUGH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS MADE AND USED TO PAY FOR THE LOAN. HOWEVER, SINCE IT IS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ENFORCED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH OUR THROUGH YOUR ATTORNEY, THE PRIVATE OR PUBLIC. THIS CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT. I WILL SAY THAT WE DO THIS WORK IN GRAY COUNTY AND IN PALO PINTO. WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO DO ANYTHING UNDER THIS CONTRACT, SO I ANTICIPATE NEVER HAVING TO DO ANYTHING UNDER THIS CONTRACT. THAT'S CERTAINLY THE GOAL. YES, THAT'S THE FEAR. THAT'S THE GOAL. THANK YOU, MR. MEDLEY. AND I'LL REMIND THE COURT IN THE AUDIENCE THIS ITEM CAME ABOUT BECAUSE A LOCAL PROPERTY OWNER, A BUSINESS OWNER, WANTED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, NOT SINGLE FAMILY, BUT A COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PROPERTY, AND FOUND THIS PROGRAM BROUGHT IT TO THE COURT ALONG WITH TEXAS PACE ADMINISTER OR AUTHORITY AS SOMETHING THAT HE THOUGHT COULD HELP HIS BUSINESS. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THIS TO THE COURT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WENT OUT AND FOUND OR INVENTED SOME ODD ITEM. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT A BUSINESS OWNER BROUGHT TO US, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO ASSIST A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER WITH KEEPING HIS BUSINESS SOLVENT. SO HAVING SAID THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE COLLECTION AGREEMENT WITH PERDUE? PERDUE, BRANDON. THIS WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME TERMS AS OUR TAX 
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COLLECTION AGREEMENT WITH THEM, MEANING IT'S A CONTINGENCY CONTRACT IN THE COUNTY WOULD NOT PAY ANY COLLECTION FEES. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A EIGHT MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER WILLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. AND ITEM EIGHT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE MOVE TO ITEM A NINE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING APPROVE ORDER 2026-69 ORDER APPROVING REVISION OF PLAT PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO. 32.009 C ONE OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OF TRIPLE H ESTATES PHASE TWO, LOT SIX, TO CREATE LOTS SIX, R ONE AND SIX R TWO LOCATED IN PRECINCT FOUR WITH TEXAS WATER UTILITIES LP PROVIDING WATER. MISS VANDERLINDE JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY OWNER WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER SUBDIVIDE A PREVIOUSLY PLATTED LOT. THE PROPOSED LOTS DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE BEING CREATED ARE TWO AND 2.41 ACRES. EVEN THOUGH THEY DO SHOW TO HAVE PUBLIC WATER AVAILABLE, WE ASK THAT THE COURT APPROVE THIS PLAT REVISION AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MISS VANDERLINDE? OKAY. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. IT IS NOW 9:36 A.M. IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON THIS REPLAT AND TRIPLE H ESTATES, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. YOU CAN SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION. 
          ALL RIGHT. SEEING NOBODY MAKING THEIR WAY TO THE PODIUM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ITEM A NINE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THEN I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE, AS PRESENTED SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN ITEM A9 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVE TO ITEM A TEN. CONSIDER AND APPROVE VARIANCE TO ROADWAY CROSS SECTION FOR CIVITAS AT ALVARADO MANUFACTURED HOME RENTAL COMMUNITY. MHRC LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE. MISS VANDERLIN JUDGE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS DEVELOPER IS IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF WORKING ON THIS MANUFACTURED HOME RENTAL COMMUNITY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE COURT. AND THEIR ENGINEER, THEIR GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER, HAS SHOWN THAT THEY CAN CHANGE THE CROSS SECTION OF THE PAVED SURFACE WITHIN THIS MHR. AND BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, IT'S NOT A DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. WE ARE COMFORTABLE PROPOSING THEIR VARIANCE REQUEST. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE AND NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY, OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DO STILL CALL FOR THOSE PAVED SURFACES TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE MINIMUM STANDARDS THAT IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR OUR DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO GO FROM A FIVE INCH THICK, REINFORCED CONCRETE PAVEMENT OVER AN EIGHT INCH THICK BASE OVER AN EIGHT INCH COMPACTED SUBGRADE TO INSTEAD HAVE A SIX INCH THICK REINFORCED CONCRETE OVER SIX INCH THICK LIME STABILIZED SUBGRADE. THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR COUNTY ENGINEER. AGAIN, THIS WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. THEY ARE THE INTERIOR DRIVES FOR THIS RENTAL COMMUNITY. COULD. OUR. IS. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER? OH HE'S TRIED TO SNEAK AWAY. NO, HE'S IN THE BACK SEAT BACK THERE. YOU CAN'T SEE HIM. JENNIFER'S BLOCKING HIM. YES. IF MR. FRIEDRICH COULD COME, MAYBE EXPLAIN TO TO THOSE OF US THAT ARE A LITTLE LESS PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS GOING TO MAKE FOR RESIDENTS AND LONG TERM STABILITY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO IN THE SHORT TERM, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS SIMILAR TO WHAT MANY CITIES AND OTHER CONCRETE ROADS, THE SAME MANNER OF CONSTRUCTION, JUST SIX INCHES OF CONCRETE, OVER SIX INCHES OF STABILIZED SUBGRADE. OUR SECTION IS A LITTLE BIT STRONGER GIVEN THAT THEY THERE IS THAT EIGHT INCHES OF BASE MATERIAL THAT PROVIDES A BETTER SUBSURFACE. AREA FOR THE FOR DRAINAGE TO GO THROUGH FOR. ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THEY ARE ADDING AN EXTRA INCH OF CONCRETE OVER OUR OVER OUR MINIMUM. AND SO THAT THAT WILL COME COME WITH SOME ADDITIONAL STRENGTH. IT'S I DON'T WANT TO SAY SIX OF ONE HALF A DOZEN OF ANOTHER, BUT THERE'S THERE'S SIMILARITIES. BUT OUR SECTION DOES HAVE THAT BASE LAYER THAT HELPS PROMOTE DRAINAGE, HELPS GET WATER MOVED AWAY FROM THE, THE PAVING SURFACE. SO DO YOU 
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THINK THIS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THEM MOVING MANUFACTURED HOMES IN AND OUT AND CONSTRUCTING THE SITES? IT. IT SHOULD BE IT WILL REQUIRE MAINTENANCE PROBABLY. YEAH. 
          IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE MAINTENANCE. BUT WE'RE THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE THEMSELVES. AND WE. IN OUR SUBDIVISION RULES, WE STATE THAT THE THE ROADS WILL NEVER BE MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. THIS IS A CROSS SECTION. THIS IS THIS IS A ROADWAY CROSS SECTION. SO IT'S GOING TO BE NOT ONLY USED BY THEM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC AS WELL. RIGHT. IS THAT GOING TO BE IT'LL BE USED BY TRASH SERVICES, DELIVERY SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT A WAY BUT IT WON'T GO THROUGH. IT WON'T BE A CUT FOR THE PUBLIC. OKAY, OKAY. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR THEIR MHRC, BUT YOU WILL HAVE AMAZON DELIVERIES, GARBAGE SERVICES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU KNOW, THE EIGHT INCH COMPACTION IS BASICALLY WHAT WE REQUIRE ON COUNTY ROADS. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HARD TO ASK TO DO MORE UNLESS THEY WANTED TO. THE CONCRETE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE MORE SUSTAINABILITY. BUT YEAH, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING SIX INCHES OF CONCRETE, OVER SIX INCHES OF, OF STABILIZED SUBGRADE. OUR SECTION IS FIVE INCHES OF CONCRETE, EIGHT INCHES OF BASE MATERIAL, AND THEN EIGHT INCHES OF SUBGRADE SHOULD BE FINE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A TEN MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. 
          I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN ITEM A10 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO SKIP A11 FOR THE MOMENT. MOVE TO ITEM A12. CONSIDER AN APPROVED PARTICIPATION FOR COUNTY ROAD EXPANSION AGREEMENT BETWEEN JOHNSON COUNTY AND LENNAR HOMES OF TEXAS LAND AND CONSTRUCTION LIMITED FOR WRIGHT FARMS SLASH FRONTIER TO CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN WESTBOUND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS WIDENING EXISTING COUNTY ROAD 904, APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE ADJACENT TO THE WRIGHT FARMS FRONTIER. PHASES ONE A AND ONE B DEVELOPMENT. INSTALLING A STORM DRAIN SYSTEM AND REPLACING SIGNAGE ON COUNTY ROAD 904. WITH THE COST OF MATERIAL AND LABOR VALUED AT $1,914,597.75. LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE. MISS VANDERLIN JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS THE SECOND PART OF A PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AND APPROVED AGREEMENT. THIS HOME BUILDER DEVELOPER CAME TO THE COURT PREVIOUSLY TO COMPLETE SIMILAR IMPROVEMENTS. THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, THE SIGNAGE AND WIDENING EXISTING COUNTY ROAD 904 FOR THE EASTBOUND LANES. BECAUSE THOSE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, THEY'RE NOW ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO WORK WITHIN THAT COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE WESTBOUND LANES IN THAT SAME SECTION. SO THIS IS JUST COMPLETING THE SECOND HALF OF WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN. IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEER AND THE COMMISSIONER. YEAH. EVERY DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN AND IMPROVE OUR COUNTY ROADS THIS WELL, IT WOULD ALL BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO SAY COMMISSIONER, I THINK GETTING $1.9 MILLION. THAT'S A B HALF OF YOUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. WE APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WERE DOING THIS WORK. YEAH, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE ALL OF THAT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SUBDIVISION OUT THERE WHEN THEY'RE DONE. WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. I CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A 12. FIRST, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU COLE. AND TO JENNIFER IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS GETTING ALL THIS HERE. BUT MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN ITEM A 12 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU, MRS. VANDERLYN. THANK YOU JUDGE, I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON ITEM A11. OKAY. 
          WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE ITEM A11. THIS IS CONSIDERED AN APPROVE AMENDMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF JOHNSON AND CITY OF BURLESON REGARDING JURISDICTION OF PLAT APPROVAL WITHIN THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN MISS VANDERLINDE JUDGE, I DID RECEIVE THIS MORNING A COPY OF THE EXECUTED AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY OF BURLESON. I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY OF BURLESON SIGNED IS NOT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AND AGREED UPON. IT'S MISSING SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION. A LOT OF THAT GOING AROUND LATELY. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS VANDERLIN. I'LL REMIND THE COURT THIS IS THIS ITEM WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH BURLESON TO FIGURE OUT THE TALL GRASS DEVELOPMENT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES. I THINK OUR WELL, I WOULD SAY OUR FIRST MEETING, OUR FIRST MEETING WAS PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO. WE. WE TRIED TO PUSH THINGS FORWARD STARTING IN LAST NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER AND HAVE 
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BEEN BACK AND FORTH SIGNIFICANTLY, TRYING TO GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT AND TRYING TO GET THE AGREEMENT TO COVER ONLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO. THERE WERE SOME LOTS OF ETJ EXCHANGES BETWEEN BURLESON AND FORT WORTH. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF STEPS, A LOT OF WORK IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TRYING TO GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. 
          SO WE WILL TAKE NO ACTION UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION TODAY. BUT I ANTICIPATE WE'LL SEE THIS ONE AGAIN SOMETIME AND FINALLY GET IT DONE AND OFF OF EVERYONE'S PLATES. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MISS VANDERLIN. ALL RIGHT. ANY OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM A 11. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM A 13 CONSIDERING APPROVAL ELECTION SYSTEM AND SOFTWARE S AND S QUOTE AND ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A DS 950 TABULATOR AND THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS BY BOARD CONTRACT 710-23 IN THE AMOUNT OF $139,600, INCLUDING THE MAINTENANCE FEE OF $7,410, WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SECONDARY TABULATOR FOR ELECTION NIGHT RETURNS. WE WOULD BE PURCHASING IT FROM THE SERVICE CONTRACT ELECTIONS. AND THEN IT WAS PRE-APPROVED IN MY BUDGET ELECTION. I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT WE GET IT BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, SO I'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. THIS IS PAID FOR OUT OF A SPECIAL FUND FOR ELECTIONS FUNDED BY. WHENEVER WE RENT OUT ELECTIONS EQUIPMENT TO CITIES, THAT MONEY GOES INTO A SPECIAL FUND AND ONLY BUYS ADDITIONAL ELECTION EQUIPMENT. WE DON'T TURN A PROFIT ON ANY OF THE CITIES. WE JUST PAY FOR SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          AND MISS ADAMS, YOU SAID THIS IS A THIS IS A SECOND COUNTING MACHINE, EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE CURRENTLY EXACTLY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. YES. IT'S JUST TO HELP ENSURE THAT WE GET OUR RETURNS A LOT SOONER ON ELECTION NIGHT AND ALSO A SECONDARY MACHINE. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE FIRST ONE, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. THAT'S. WE HAD A WE HAD AN ELECTIONS CLASS LAST WEEK IN OUR AT OUR REGIONAL CONFERENCE. AND THIS NEW SENATE BILL THAT IS LOOMING OUT THERE THAT I GUESS SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS THE JURISDICTION ON WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE QUITE A BURDEN AS FAR AS REPORTING, BECAUSE EARLY RETURNS AND ELECTION DAY RETURNS ARE ALL GOING TO BE LUMPED IN IN ONE REPORT. IT WON'T BE A 7:00 REVEALING OF EARLY RETURNS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL IN THE NEXT SESSION, MAYBE THEY'LL DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. BUT IF THIS WILL ALLOW EARLIER. 
          REPORTING AND POSSIBLY PERIODIC REPORTING, WILL IT DO THAT? WELL, WHAT I'LL DO IS IT'LL JUST SPEED UP THE ELECTION NIGHT RETURNS WHEN WE HAVE OUR BOXES COME IN, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THEY COME IN SLOW, AND THEN WE GET A BIG SLEW THAT COMES IN ALL AT ONCE, AND IT'LL JUST HELP US KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S COMING IN AT THE TIME FOR THAT SENATE BILL, THAT SENATE BILL 2753. AND WHAT THAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS ELECTION. EARLY VOTING WILL RUN INTO ELECTION DAY, AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO COUNT THE COUNTS UNTIL ELECTION DAY AFTER SEVEN, WHEN THE POLLS CLOSE. SO I'LL BE COUNTING EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY AT ONE TIME AS ONE GROUP. LET'S JUST GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE. THAT'S THAT. NO FRIEND OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT, BOB HALL OUT OF ROCKWALL. YOU KNOW, SENATOR, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED MORE THAN ONCE THURSDAY MORNING. WHAT WHAT PROBLEM WAS THIS BILL SUPPOSED TO FIX? AND NOBODY COULD ANSWER THAT. I COULDN'T GET AN ANSWER EITHER. IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. WE WE DO. YEAH. THE EARLY THE EARLY REPORTING IS NOT KNOWN UNTIL THE POLLS CLOSE ON ELECTION DAY ANYWAY. RIGHT. WELL, THEY'RE NOT NOW I CAN SEE IT. IT'S DIFFERENT IF IF THE EARLY VOTING RESULTS WERE PUBLICLY PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT POSSIBLY COULD SWAY THE WAY SOMEBODY WENT AND VOTED, BUT THERE CAN'T. I MEAN, BEFORE THEY'VE BEEN COUNTED. BUT AS SOON AS 7:00 ROLLS AROUND, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO GET THERE EARLY. AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE POLLS CLOSE AND THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS COUNT ELECTION DAY. THIS IS A THIS LOOKS LIKE A DEBACLE. YEAH. AND THE CHURCHES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND SO MANY, SO MANY OTHER THINGS GOING TO BE THAT SUNDAY PRIOR TO THE ELECTION DAY IS GOING TO BE A. AND YOU HAVE TO USE ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS HAVE TO BE UTILIZED AS EARLY. OR AM I THE ONE THAT WAS ON THAT? THE ONES THAT WE USE FOR EARLY WILL HAVE TO BE UTILIZED AS ELECTION DAY. YEAH. CORRECT. WHICH THAT CONFLICTS WITH OUR CENTRAL COUNT BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE LOCATION. WELL, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET THOSE RESULTS IN EARLIER, BUT I'LL GO FURTHER TO SAY THAT WITH AS MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THIS COUNTY AND THOSE THAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY JUST WENT TO THEIR NORMAL VOTING BOXES, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ON WHERE TO GO. SO WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING THE WORD OUT TO WHERE YOU ARE EXACTLY GOING TO GO. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT. 
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WE'RE LOSING SO MANY LIMITED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED NOW TO JUST, YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY SIDE OR, OR WHAT, BUT WE'RE, IF NOTHING ELSE, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE OPEN AT THOSE LOCATIONS, HAVE SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE THERE ON JUST BIG PRINT WHERE TO GO, BECAUSE I PROBABLY HAD MORE PHONE CALLS ON, HEY, I'M OVER HERE. WHERE, WHERE DO I GO? YOU KNOW, AND I JUST INSTRUCTED EVERYBODY TO WALNUT STREET, BEST I COULD TELL FROM THIS REGION OVER HERE, BUT IT'S A BUT IT'S IT'S ALL OVER. SO WE GOT TO GET A BETTER WORD AT GETTING OUT. IF YOU'RE USED TO VOTING HERE. BUT THIS IS NOT OPEN. WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF HERE. WHAT THIS IS WHERE YOU GO. ONE OF THE WORST SOURCES OF OR THE BIGGEST SOURCES OF CONFUSION IS THE WORD PRECINCT. YES. BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL CALL AND THEY'LL SAY, WHAT PRECINCT ARE YOU IN? AND THEY SAY, PRECINCT FOUR. WILL THEY SEND THEM? THEY'VE BEEN SENDING THEM TO VOTER PRECINCT FOUR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN PRECINCT TWO. SO IT'S A THAT IF THE STATE WOULD CHANGE THE TERMINOLOGY, IT WAS. THAT WOULD SOLVE SOME. THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS FIXING. THIS OTHER DEAL DOESN'T. BUT ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION ON. SHOULD ASK FOR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR CONSTRUCTIVE. 
          DEPENDS WHO'S LISTENING. BUT WE LIKE OUR ELECTIONS. OUR ADMINISTRATIVE. MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. THOSE FUNDS WILL COME OUT OF THAT SPECIAL FUND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. 813 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NONE OF THIS IS TOWARDS JOY OR OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. 
          ALL THESE COMMENTS WERE ARE BROUGHT FROM OUR DEAR LEGISLATORS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR RIGHTS ARE ALL WRONG USUALLY DOWN THERE. YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, BUT YOU CAN'T FIND A MORE ADMIRABLE PEOPLE THAN THOSE PEOPLE THAT GIVE THEIR TIME SINCE THE ELECTIONS FOR THE POLLS OR FOR THE WORKING THOSE STATIONS. I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE, WHAT SIDE THEY'RE ON. WE GOT WE GOT GOOD, REPUTABLE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT ALL OF JOHNSON COUNTY. THIS NEW SYSTEM IS GOING TO PUT THOSE PEOPLE IN A BIND TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING STRAIGHT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, NO BREAK IN BETWEEN THE CLOSE OF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CLOSE OF EARLY VOTING PRIOR TO ELECTION DAY. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S A MESS. 
          MORE TO COME, JOEY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM A 14. THIS IS CONSIDER AND APPROVE SPECIAL REQUEST AUDIT REPORT WITH FINDINGS FOR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT REGARDING INSURANCE CLAIMS. MR. WATSON. I WAS CONTACTED BY THE PURCHASING AGENT A FEW MONTHS AGO BECAUSE HE SAW SOME WHAT HE FELT LIKE WERE IRREGULARITIES WITH THE DEPOSIT OF INSURANCE PROCEEDS, CHECKS, AND MY OFFICE DID A REVIEW OF ALL OF THAT. WE DID NOT FIND ANY FRAUD, BUT WE DID FIND THAT PROCEDURES NEEDED TO BE UPDATED AND THEY HAVE BEEN. ALL RIGHT. AND, MR. WATSON, MR. ANDERSON, THIS IS REGARDING INSURANCE CHECKS THAT WERE DELAYED IN THE TIME FROM WHICH THEY WERE RECEIVED FROM TECH TO WHEN THEY WERE DEPOSITED. THAT'S CORRECT. JUDGE. THE SUBSTANCE OF MR. ANDERSON, HAVE YOU UPDATED POLICIES THAT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? YES, SIR. 
          WE TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED EVERY CORRECTIVE ACTION RECOMMENDED BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS OVERSEEING THE PROCESS AT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. WE NOW HAVE REDIRECTED ALL OF THE CHECKS TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, WHICH IS WHERE THEY LIKELY SHOULD HAVE GONE BEFORE. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A PROCEDURE WHERE WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN INCOMING PAYMENT FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM, THAT THERE IS AN INVOICE CREATED SO THAT THAT WILL CREATE AN AGED RECEIVABLE, IF THAT CHECK IS NEVER RECEIVED OR DEPOSITED IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON. I APPRECIATE YOU CATCHING IT AND BRINGING IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO SEE HOW IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE. WE WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE TAKING THOSE THINGS SERIOUSLY. ABSOLUTELY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM A? 14 MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. 
          AND ITEM 14 IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. WE MOVE TO ITEM A 15 CONSIDER AND APPROVE FY 26 QUARTER TWO AUDIT REPORT WITH FINDINGS FOR INDIGENT HEALTH CARE AND JAIL MEDICAL. MR. WATSON THANK YOU, JUDGE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PAYMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT WERE ALSO PAID 
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BY MEDICAID. SO WE'VE. AND SIMILAR TO THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU AND I HAD THE OTHER DAY ABOUT PAYMENTS COMING OUT OF INDIGENT DEFENSE, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          IT'S NOT IN DEFENSE. INDIGENT HEALTH HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER CONTROLS OVER THERE. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. INDIGENT HEALTH DOES FALL UNDER MY OFFICE. SO WE HAD A MEETING AFTER THIS. THESE ITEMS WERE FOUND, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF OUT OF COUNTY INMATES THAT WERE PAID. OR YOU SAID MEDICAID PAID. OKAY. 
          SO MEDICAL BILLS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PAID, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS PRETTY LOW. BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A HUGE POTENTIAL FOR LIABILITY IF WE'RE PAYING OUT MEDICAL BILLS, THE COUNTY DOESN'T NEED TO PAY. THIS OCCURRED RIGHT AROUND THE TIME WE HAD A CHANGE IN PERSONNEL OUT THERE, AND I THINK THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE INCIDENT. BUT WE HAVE GOT SOME NEW PROCEDURES IN PLACE. THEY ARE NOW THERE'S TWO INDIGENT HEALTH COORDINATORS OUT THERE. 
          THEY ARE GOING TO DUAL COUNTER SIGN OR COUNTER REVIEW ANY INVOICE OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT LARGER INVOICES ARE GETTING MORE CARE AND MORE REVIEW. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE UPDATED OUR POLICIES TO GIVE THEM A BETTER, MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CATCH THIS KIND OF ERROR. AND THEN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE ALREADY PERFORMS AN ADDITIONAL AUDITS ON THIS ON THESE FUNDS AS WELL. AND THEY, I THINK THEY KNOW THEY CAN RAISE THE RED FLAG PRETTY QUICKLY AND GET OUR ATTENTION TO SEE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED. SO I FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. OBVIOUSLY, WE APPRECIATE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE CATCHING SOMETHING THAT WAS PAID THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PAID. WE'RE GOING TO ENDEAVOR TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM A 15 MOVE TO APPROVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOWELL. SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. AND A 15 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY TAKE UP ITEM A 16 CONSIDERING AUTHORIZED PURCHASING AGENT TO SIGN TAC TOTAL LOSS FORM AND TEX-DOT LIMITED POWER OF ATTORNEY FOR ELIGIBLE MOTOR VEHICLE TRANSACTIONS FOR FORM AND THE LOSS OF A 2013 FORD F250 WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR PURCHASING AGENT TO SIGN THIS AND ALL FUTURE FORMS FOR SIMILAR TRANSACTIONS. SO THIS CAME ABOUT COMMISSIONER WHITE, I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE VEHICLE YOU MENTIONED THAT GOT TOTALED. TAC IS OUR RISK MANAGEMENT OR INSURANCE CARRIER AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT HANDLES MOST OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH TAC ABOUT INSURANCE MATTERS. 
          THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE WAS TOTALED BY TAC, SO THEY OFFERED A FINAL SETTLEMENT AMOUNT. ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT, AND THEY SENT US A FORM TO BE SIGNED, ACKNOWLEDGING AND ACCEPTING THE PAYMENT FOR THAT TOTAL LOSS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW OUR PURCHASING AGENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE INSURANCE CLAIMS LAND OR INSURANCE PAYMENTS LAND, ALLOWING HIM TO SIGN OFF ON THAT DOCUMENT, WHICH I THINK THEN WOULD BE PART OF HIS PROCEDURE IN CREATING THOSE INVOICES ON INSURANCE CHECKS. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PIECES TO THIS. IF APPROVED AS PRESENTED, THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO SIGN NOT ONLY THIS DOCUMENT, BUT ALL FUTURE TOTAL LOSS CLAIMS. I THINK THEY'VE HAD SOME CHANGES IN THEIR INSURANCE CLAIM POLICIES OR PROCEDURES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, AND WANTED SOME CLARITY FROM THE COURT ON WHO SHOULD BE SIGNING THOSE FORMS. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE PURCHASING AGENT TO SIGN THEM. WELL, ESPECIALLY ON A TOTAL VEHICLE AND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, WHO'S GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO GO OUT AND SEARCH TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE ANYWAY? SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER PLACE. AND THEY MAINTAIN THE INVENTORY OF VEHICLES THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING SALVAGEABLE, NOT PARTICULARLY THIS VEHICLE, BUT JUST QUESTIONING, SAY THERE'S A LATER MODEL VEHICLE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF MILES AND IT'S TOTALED, BUT YET THERE'S A GOOD SALVAGEABLE ENGINE DRIVE TRAIN SOMETHING DO WE DO WE GET THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THOSE BACK? YES. YOU THEY WHAT THEY WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY SENT THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THAT VEHICLE. AND I CHOSE WHICH ONE. IT WAS ONE THIS OLD IT'S YEAH. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T THINK IT'D BE A LOT OF VALUE TO IT. WELL, BUT I JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE 23 MODEL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD WE BE ON THE ABILITY TO SALVAGE THAT DRIVETRAIN? YOU CAN AND ON THIS ONE, IT WASN'T THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT WAS JUST A BIGGER HEADACHE TO TRY TO BUY IT BACK AND KEEP IT. AND SO I CHOSE JUST TO LET THEM HAVE IT OR WHATEVER. BUT THERE, THERE IS OPTIONS TO THEY GIVE YOU SEVERAL OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM. SO AND THE ONE THAT WAS DRIVING 
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THIS TRUCK IS GOING TO MOVE TO 2007. HE'S NOT GOING TO DRIVE THE 2025. WELL, THAT'S PRETTY HARSH MIKE. YEAH. IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, HE GETS A BICYCLE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM A16. I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. AND A16 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO BACK UP TO ITEM A FOR THIS IS CONSIDERING APPROVED PECAN VALLEY CENTER AGREEMENT FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY SERVICES IN JOHNSON COUNTY, TEXAS WITH SCHEDULE A WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN. INVITE DOCTOR DE HOYOS FORWARD THE NEW EXECUTIVE. 
          NOT REALLY NEW ANYMORE, BUT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PECAN VALLEY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE A FEW STAFF HERE TODAY. GABE LEATHERWOOD IS OUR CFO. AMANDA SIMPSON IS OUR CHIEF OF NURSING AND MEDICAL SERVICES, IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL. SO THE THREE THINGS THAT I KNOW WE WERE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IS, ONE IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT I THINK WE'RE ABOUT READY TO GET THAT COMPLETED. I SAW THE EMAIL THIS MORNING. AND SO WE'LL GET THAT CHANGED ON THE ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND GET THAT BACK TO, TO YOU TO, TO GET IT READY FOR THE AUGUST HEARING. AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE OPIOID ABATEMENT FUNDS AND HOW WE CAN WORK THAT. I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR US TODAY OR IF WE NEEDED TO MAYBE WAIT TO A LATER DATE TO KIND OF WORK OUT ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT, ON THE USAGE OF THOSE FUNDS. THE THIRD THIRD ITEM WAS THE INDIGENT PROGRAM BEING BEING A PART OF YOUR INDIGENT PROGRAM, WHICH WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO TO BE A PROVIDER OF THOSE SERVICES. WE DO HAVE THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE SAME INDIGENT INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING US. ANYONE WITH A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE USUALLY ALSO HAS ISSUES WITH THEIR MEDICAL NEEDS, AND SO THEY GO HAND IN HAND. 
          SOMETIMES THOSE MEDICATIONS REACT TO ONE ANOTHER, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH. 
          AND SO WE DID HIRE A FAMILY NURSE PRACTITIONER DURING THE COVID, COVID PERIOD ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. AND THAT WAS THROUGH SOME FUNDS THAT THE ARPA FUNDS THAT ACTUALLY JOHNSON COUNTY WAS ABLE TO GIVE US TO START THIS PRIMARY CARE PROGRAM. AND TO BE HONEST, WE'VE, WE'VE STRUGGLED TO TO KEEP IT GOING BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER FUNDING FOR IT. AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE STATE DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FOR PRIMARY CARE. SO IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE, BUT WE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT. AND THIS YEAR WE ASKED AND WE'RE ASKING JOHNSON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SEE IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM. WE. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT INITIALLY WAS PUT INTO THE FACILITIES THERE AT OUR OUTPATIENT CLINIC ON ENGLAND. 
          AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOMS THAT WE RENOVATED TO, TO, TO MAKE THE NEED AVAILABLE FOR OUR, OUR CLIENTS TO RECEIVE SERVICES THERE. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE IF POSSIBLE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO GOING TO NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. SOME DETAILS IF IF COMMISSIONERS COURT IS INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US ON THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I, I THINK THE JUDGE ASKED THAT I JUST KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE DO, AND, AND TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF COLIN VALLEY CENTERS. WE ARE A UNIT OF GOVERNMENT. WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1976, WHEN DOCTOR MOLLOY STARTED THE PROGRAM IN THE FIVE COUNTIES OF PARKER, PALO PINTO, SOMERVILLE, ERATH AND HOOD COUNTIES. IN 2006. JOHNSON, ELLIS, NAVARRO COUNTY WAS A MH EMR. THAT'S MH MISSES THE OLD TERM THAT WE USED TO USE FOR THOSE THAT REMEMBER MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL RETARDATION, WHICH. WE DROPPED THE MENTAL RETARDATION BACK IN 2009, 2010. AND SO NOW WE'RE JUST KNOWN AS VALLEY CENTERS FOR BEHAVIORAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL HEALTH CARE. BUT IN 2006, WHEN WE TOOK THE JOHNSON COUNTY SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, ELLIS AND NAVARRO COUNTIES WENT WITH LAKES REGIONAL. THERE'S 39 LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE'RE 
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JUST ONE OF THOSE 39 CENTERS THAT GET. WE DO GET CONTRACTS FROM THE STATE. AGAIN, WE'RE A UNIT OF GOVERNMENT. SO WE HAVE ALL THE IMMUNITIES THAT A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY HAS. BUT WE ARE THE SAFETY NET OF THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL THE SIX COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE, MEANING THAT ALL THE INDIGENT INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED OUR SERVICES, WE'RE HERE FOR THEM. 
          WE'RE USUALLY THE LAST STEP, LAST HOPE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL BEFORE THEY GET TO MORE SERIOUS ISSUES, MORE CRISIS SITUATIONS WHERE THEY END UP EITHER IN JAILS OR EMERGENCY ROOMS OR WORSE, AND MAYBE IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION IN A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE TRY TO KEEP INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY WORKING AND DOING WHATEVER THEY NEED TO, TO SURVIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT GOING INTO THEIR CRISIS SITUATIONS. AND SO WE WE PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WE PROVIDE SKILLS TRAINING, WE PROVIDE THERAPY SERVICES, PROVIDE PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES, MEDICATIONS FOR THOSE NEEDS. WE HAVE YOUTH SERVICES, ADULT SERVICES. WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THOSE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF PRISON SYSTEMS UNDER A GRANT THROUGH FROM THE TEXAS CORRECTIONS ON MENTAL HEALTH. AND SO WE DO SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES, VETERANS SERVICES, WHICH IS BIG HERE IN TARRANT COUNTY. ID SERVICES, WHICH IS PART OF OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ON INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. WE HAVE SIX RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS, FIVE HERE IN PARKER, I MEAN, IN JOHNSON COUNTY, AND WE HAVE TWO IN ERATH COUNTY. SO CURRENTLY ONE IN PALO PINTO. BUT THAT MAY BE CLOSING. TWO. IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE USED TO HAVE, AND WE CAN'T KEEP EVERYTHING OPEN THAT WE ONCE HAD BEFORE. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT GABE HERE TODAY WITH ME. 
          I THINK OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $1 MILLION JUST WITHIN THE WITHIN THE PAST YEAR. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO SUFFER THROUGH SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND REVENUE REDUCTIONS. THAT JUST HAPPENS. AND AND THE 43 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 25 YEARS WITH PECAN VALLEY CENTERS, I'VE SEEN THESE EBB AND FLOWS BEFORE. SO THAT DOESN'T SCARE ME. BUT WE DO HAVE TO WEATHER THOSE STORMS WHEN IT HAPPENS. THE LAST BIG ONE WAS IN 2008, WHEN WE LOST A LOT OF OUR FUNDS. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF REDUCTION IN FORCE JUST TO STAY OPEN. 
          THIS YEAR WE DID LAY OFF 12 INDIVIDUALS, AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO LAY OFF ANY MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE FUNDS ARE DWINDLING. 
          WE WERE NOTIFIED THIS MORNING THAT WE GOT A ZERO SUICIDE GRANT, WHICH IS A POSITIVE NOTE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 400 000 THAT COMES INTO OUR AGENCY A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. BUT THESE ARE JUST THE KIND OF GRANTS THAT WE GET AND WORK WITH, AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR TO BETTER THE SERVICES THAT WE, WE, WE CAN GIVE TO THE INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. JOHNSON COUNTIES IS OUR LARGEST COUNTY OF THOSE THAT WE SERVE. 
          WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1000 TO 1200 INDIVIDUALS, ADULT INDIVIDUALS THAT WE SERVE HERE WITH A COUPLE, MAYBE TWO, 300 YOUTH AS AS CHILDREN AGES BETWEEN 3 AND 17 THAT WE SERVE IN THIS COUNTY AS WELL. WE SERVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 650 IN ALL SIX COUNTIES, WITH JOHNSON COUNTY BEING THE LARGEST FOR OUR YOUTH SERVICES. WE CONTINUE TO NEED MORE ROOM AND MORE EXPANSION. I KNOW OUR LIFE SKILLS CENTER HERE BEHIND THE BUILDING IS KIND OF SMALL, TOO SMALL FOR OUR IDD POPULATION THAT WE SERVE FOR LIFE SKILLS SERVICES, OUR LIFE SKILLS SERVICES TO TEACH SKILLS TO INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. AND WHEN YOU HAVE 30 INDIVIDUALS IN A ROOM, PROBABLY THE SIZE OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE IN RIGHT NOW, THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL AND BEHAVIORAL ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE. IT GETS IT GETS VERY DIFFICULT. BUT SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR MORE FACILITIES, LARGER FACILITIES THAT COULD HELP US PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. SO THAT'S WHO WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. I'M SURE I LEFT OUT SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY. ANOTHER ONE JUST THOUGHT CAME TO MY MIND IS THE IT'S A, IT'S WE WERE THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR A LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES TO DO IT. 
          BUT IT'S THE PROMOTORAS PROGRAM. THAT PROMOTORAS PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM THAT MY PREDECESSOR, COACH BEATTIE, STARTED IN 2007 AND. AND REACHING OUT AND HIRING A COMMUNITY HEALTH 
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WORKER TO REACH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HISPANIC POPULATION THAT TYPICALLY DO NOT ASK FOR SERVICES FOR CULTURAL REASONS. AND COACH KNEW THAT MR. BEATTIE KNEW THAT. AND HE HIRED AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S ACTUALLY WAS A DOCTOR IN ARGENTINA, AND NOW SHE'S A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER HERE WITH US, AND SHE RECEIVED HER CITIZENSHIP IN 2013. AND SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT COMMUNITY. AND JUST REACHING OUT TO THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY INTEGRATE INTO OUR SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THE TREATMENT THEY NEED BEFORE THEY ALSO GO INTO THESE SITUATIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE USING SUBSTANCES OR WHETHER THEY'RE RUNNING INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND GETTING THEMSELVES IN TROUBLE. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A NEW PROGRAM OR A RECENT PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED UP IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. THAT'S ABOUT A MOUTHFUL. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, THANK YOU, RUBEN. I'LL TELL THE COURT JUST A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE. WE KIND OF GOT HERE FOR THE UPDATE. DOCTOR DE HOYOS CAME AND MET WITH THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR PECAN VALLEY. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY PARTIALLY FUNDED BY JOHNSON COUNTY, MOSTLY FUNDED BY OTHER SOURCES. BUT WE WE CONTRIBUTE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY MAKE USE OF SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN THAT THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVELY USED FOR SOME TIME. AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, SOME IDEAS CAME ABOUT ABOUT HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY USING OR WHAT WE HAVE TO ASSIST THEM TO BETTER SERVE OUR RESIDENTS. ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IS THE OPIOID ABATEMENT FUNDS THAT THAT MONEY HAS A VERY LIMITED SET OF USES THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR. AND I HAVE SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS SHOPPING THAT AROUND TO VARIOUS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO SEE IF ANYBODY CAN USE THAT TO MEET THE NEED. AND THERE'S BEEN ALMOST EVERY CONVERSATION HAS GONE THE SAME WAY. IT STARTED OUT WITH A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM. AND THEN JUST FINDING THAT THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROGRAM OUTWEIGH THE AVAILABLE FUNDING. SO WE WE TALK TO PECAN VALLEY ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAKING THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO THEM BECAUSE THEY SERVE OUR CITIZENS AND MAKING THAT USE, MAKING USE OF THAT TO ADDRESS THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC HERE. THE OTHER ITEM THAT MR. HOYOS MENTIONED WAS THE INDIGENT HEALTH PROGRAM. THEY HAVE A NURSE PRACTITIONER ON STAFF THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A SERVICE PROVIDER UNDER OUR PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO SEND OUR CLIENTS TO PECAN VALLEY TO RECEIVE PHYSICAL MEDICAL CARE AND THEN BILL IT BACK AT MEDICAID RATES THROUGH THE INDIGENT HEALTH PROGRAM. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY SENDING CLIENTS OUT. WE HAVE THREE PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS THAT ARE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM, AND THIS WOULD CREATE A FOURTH POSITION WHERE WE CAN DIRECT MAYBE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO THE VALLEY AND HELP THEM BRIDGE THE GAP THAT THEY HAVE IN EMPLOYING THAT SERVICE PROVIDER. FINALLY, THERE'S THE LEASE RENEWAL. SO WE HAD A 20 YEAR LEASE ON ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT PECAN VALLEY USES THAT BELONG TO JOHNSON COUNTY THAT IS EXPIRING. AND SO IT'S TIME TO RENEW. WE HAD A MINOR ISSUE COME UP IN THE VERSION, SO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR ACTION TODAY TO GET IT SIGNED. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS, WITH THE COURT'S PERMISSION, PUT IT ON OUR NEXT CONSENT AGENDA. BUT IT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE TERMS WE'RE OPERATING UNDER CURRENTLY, WHICH IS PECAN VALLEY PROVIDES LIABILITY INSURANCE AND PAYS FOR UTILITIES ON THE PROPERTIES THEY REIMBURSE FOR OUR INSURANCE COSTS UNDER TAC. AND THEN THEY USE THE PROPERTIES FOR THEIR OFFICE AND THEN THE GROUP HOMES THAT THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO OWN. THEY TYPICALLY HANDLE MINOR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. IF SOMETHING BREAKS, THEY CALL FACILITIES, AND CODY AND HIS TEAM CAN GET OUT AND MAKE ROOF REPAIRS OR AIR CONDITIONING REPAIRS, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO I THINK THINGS HAVE WORKED VERY WELL. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT MOVING AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS. 
          ALTHOUGH BOTH SIDES HAVE AN EXIT OPTION. SHOULD THAT COME, SHOULD THAT NEED TO BE EXERCISED? THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO UPDATE. WE HAD UPDATED DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE REIMBURSEMENTS ON THE INSURANCE, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE EFFECTIVE DATE UPDATED, BUT I ANTICIPATE VERY SIMILAR AGREEMENT TO WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY COMING THROUGH CONSENT AGENDA IN TWO WEEKS AT OUR NEXT COURT. WITH THAT, WHILE I DIDN'T WANT TO CANCEL DOCTOR DE HOYOS AND THE UPDATE, SO I WANTED THEM TO COME IN AND SPEAK ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE. 
          JUST JUST A COMMENT. I MEAN, POPULATION GROWTH. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISTURBING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY LEGISLATORS DOWN THERE PREACHING ABOUT FINDING MORE MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER HUGE CUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THAT ON OTHER PROGRAMS, THE MEALS ON WHEELS WAS CUT 400 000. I WAS REVEALING TO THE COURT THIS MORNING, FARM TO MARKET ROADS CUT 3 BILLION IN THIS NEXT INTERIM, THIS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, A I GUESS A QUESTION COMES TO MIND. I THINK VERNON AT ONE TIME HAD STARTED A RENOVATION UP THERE, HAD 50% BED SPACE. HAS THAT INCREASED ANY OR WHERE ARE WE AT ON EITHER OF, YOU KNOW, VERNON STATE HOSPITAL? IT'S A FORENSIC 
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HOSPITAL. AND SO THEY THEY ACCEPT ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUALS WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES, USUALLY WITH. BACK IN THOSE DAYS, WE SAY CRIMINALLY INSANE. RIGHT. AND SO IF THEY COMMITTED A VERY SERIOUS HEINOUS CRIME, THE 46. 346 B WOULD FOR COMPETENCY WHERE THEY WOULD SEND THEM TO VERNON STATE HOSPITAL TO BECOME COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL. AND THEN THEY'D COME BACK AND HAVE THEIR HEARING. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT HAS NOT INCREASED. WICHITA FALLS STATE HOSPITAL, ACTUALLY, I WORKED THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT BACK IN MY YOUNGER DAY. IT'S MORE OF A CIVIL COMMITMENTS, AND I HEAR THAT THEY MAY GET A FEW MORE BEDS, BUT AT ONE TIME THEY WERE COMBINED. IT WAS CALLED THE NORTH TEXAS STATE HOSPITAL. NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATING BACK OUT BETWEEN THE TWO HOSPITALS. YEAH, WELL, I KNOW OUR JAIL HAS A, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. YES, WE HAVE A JAIL BASED COMPETENCY GRANT THAT ACTUALLY IS PART OF JOHNSON COUNTY AS WELL. AND I THINK THE LAST NUMBER I SAW WAS EITHER. 12 THAT WE HAD SERVED IN, OR MAYBE 20 I CAN'T REMEMBER SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND 20 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CAN SERVE IN THE JAILS FOR COMPETENCY RESTORATION. THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO VERNON OR WICHITA FALLS FOR COMPETENCY. YEAH, WELL, WE JUST APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THAT 20 YEARS IS GOING TO COME AND GO FAST, BUT THAT POPULATION IS GOING TO INCREASE AS WELL. IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE. AND JOHNSON COUNTY AND PARKER COUNTY ARE THE TWO LARGEST COUNTIES AND CONTINUE. WE CONTINUE TO SEE GROWTH IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS. THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM A4, BUT WE'LL GET THAT LEASE SIGNED AT OUR NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'M GOING TO INVITE OUR WORKSHOP FROM HOME TO MURPHY TO GO AHEAD AND GET SET UP. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK ON AN ITEM. IT SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN 5 OR 
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10 MINUTES. AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK FOR THAT PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM S TWO GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY ONE FIVE AND SEVEN EAST HENDERSON STREET, CLEBURNE, TEXAS 76033 AND S ONE GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY PENDING LITIGATION. 
          JAMES FARMER ET AL. VERSUS UNITED STATES, EPA ET AL. IN THE US DISTRICT COURT FOR DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. SO WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THERE Y. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM S TWO. THERE WAS NO ACTION RESULTING FROM ITEM S TWO. WE DID NOT GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS ES1 OR ES3. AND I DO NOT 
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BELIEVE THERE IS A NEED TO DO SO AT THIS TIME. SO THAT CONCLUDES EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO WORKSHOP AND BEGIN WITH ITEM WS3 PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD PLAN REVIEW WITH CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE 2027 PLAN YEAR BUDGET PROPOSAL. MR. GILLESPIE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JULIE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE DEFINITELY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP. SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT HIGH LEVEL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD PLAN. JUST TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT HOW YOUR CLAIM SPEND IS GOING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PHARMACY. THEN SEAN WILL TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND THEN I'LL HOP BACK IN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WELLNESS AND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR THE FUTURE FOR THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME WELLNESS INITIATIVES. SO BLUE CROSS, BLUE SHIELD, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY YOUR AVERAGE EMPLOYEE AGE IS 44. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST WHERE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT IT HAS BEEN REDUCING SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE OF THE JAIL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON HERE AS WELL. YOU'RE IN NETWORK UTILIZATION FOR YOUR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD MEDICAL PLANS IS 99.7% IN NETWORK. 
          THAT'S GREAT. THE MORE THAT PEOPLE STAY IN NETWORK, THE BETTER CONTRACTED RATES YOU HAVE. SO OVERALL, IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU. AND YOUR IN-NETWORK DISCOUNTS IS SITTING AT 53.2%. 
          AND SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, REALLY GOOD AS FAR, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS YOUR DISCOUNTS GO, I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS HIGH COST CLAIMANTS. YOUR HIGH COST CLAIMANTS ACCOUNT FOR OVER 61% OF YOUR TOTAL PLAN PAID. THAT IS A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE. I WILL SAY THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I WE KIND OF TALK THROUGH, AND I'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS PERINATAL AND CIRCULATORY ARE YOUR MOST COSTLY. SOME OF YOU UP HERE MIGHT RECALL YEARS PRIOR TO COVID, HAVING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING YOUR WELLNESS PLAN AND WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE TO JUST HAVE PEOPLE GO TO THEIR PCP AND HAVE THAT GO THROUGH WHERE PEOPLE WERE JUST GOING IN AND GETTING THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICALS AND WHAT THAT DID. AND WE SAW THE RESULTS OF, OF THAT WAS THAT WE SAW THAT 
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OUR HIGH COST CLAIMS HAD DROPPED DOWN FROM THOSE CIRCULATORY STROKES, CANCERS, AND WERE MORE OF THOSE ACCIDENTS, INJURIES, POISONINGS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT YOUR LEADING DIAGNOSTIC CATEGORIES RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM THAT WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY ON. SO CIRCULATORY, YOU CAN SEE THAT I'M GOING TO GO TO THE THIRD COLUMN IS REALLY WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON. YOU CAN SEE THAT PERINATAL IS YOUR NUMBER ONE. THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SOMETIMES CONTROL. 
          BUT CIRCULATORY NEOPLASM. SO YOUR CANCER, MUSCULOSKELETAL, DIGESTIVE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE HAVE DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN SOME PROGRAMING THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE THAT WILL HAVE SOME ABILITY TO TALK TO THE COMMITTEE GOING FORWARD, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO IMPACT THESE POSITIVELY. SO JUST KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE YOU'LL SEE THOSE GIANT BLIPS. SO PERINATAL, CIRCULATORY AND EVEN THE NEOPLASMS, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE SO HIGH IS BECAUSE OF HIGH COST CLAIMANTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE TWO TOP DIAGNOSTIC CATEGORIES. NOT AS MUCH IMPACT WE CAN DO ON THOSE, BUT CANCER SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU CATCH THEM EARLIER, NOT ONLY IS THE COST OF THE PLAN LESS, BUT THE OUTCOME FOR THAT MEMBER GETTING DIAGNOSED IN STAGE ONE VERSUS STAGE THREE OR HIGHER IS MUCH BETTER FOR THEM. SO THE IDEA OF TRYING TO CATCH THINGS EARLIER, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE YOUR CIRCULATORY CONDITIONS OR YOUR DIGESTIVE CONDITIONS EARLIER, AND BE ABLE TO CONTROL THOSE WITH PROPER MEDICATIONS AND PROPER HEALTH CARE IS GOING TO OVERALL HELP REDUCE THE COST TO THE PLAN, BUT ALSO KEEP YOUR FOLKS HEALTHIER AND HAPPIER JUST IN THE LONG RUN. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW FOR YOUR MEDICAL PLAN, WE HAVE A BVA TOOL WHICH IS CALLED BENEFIT EVALUATE ADVISOR. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS PLAN DOES IS IT ENGAGES MEMBERS TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY CAN GO TO FOR CARE. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT STEERS THEM TO LOWER COST ALTERNATIVES FOR WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE INITIALLY GONE TO. 
          SO WHAT THIS DOES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REWARDS, WHAT HAPPENS IS AN EMPLOYEE CALLS INTO THE BVA TOOL AND SAYS, I'M GOING TO GET A IMAGING DONE. I'M GOING TO GET AN MRI DONE. 
          IT WILL STEER THEM TO WHERE THEY CAN GO. THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO THEM OUT OF POCKET, LESS EXPENSIVE TO THE PLAN. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO REWARDS THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO THEM AS WELL. 
          SO THERE'S SAVINGS IN GENERAL FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. IT'S AGAIN A GOOD PROGRAM FOR FOLKS TO HAVE JUST IN PLACE. AND SO WE KIND OF LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS IS AROUND 48,000, ALMOST $50,000 FOR THAT PROGRAM. ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE MD LIVE, WHICH IS YOUR BASICALLY TELEMEDICINE BENEFIT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR ANNUALIZED UTILIZATION, YOU HAVE ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER 16% OF FOLKS THAT ARE USING THAT. BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A CHILD WITH AN EAR INFECTION, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN YOUR CAR, DRIVING DOWN TO THE URGENT CARE OR ER, YOU KNOW, 11:00 AT NIGHT, ON A SUNDAY NIGHT, YOU CAN CALL INTO THE, TO THE MD LIVE AND YOU CAN HAVE THEM GO AHEAD AND HELP TAKE CARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS. THEY'RE REALLY GREAT FOR THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, YOU KNOW, KIDNEY INFECTION OR AGAIN, EAR INFECTION, PINK EYE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND OVERALL, YOUR ESTIMATED COST AVOIDANCE TO YOUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 2000 ON THAT. I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE USING CARE, MAYBE AN URGENT CARE FACILITY OR GOING TO AN ER WHEN THEY MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE SOMETHING THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO THEM OUT OF POCKET AND QUICKER FOR THEM TO GET THAT CARE AS WELL. 
          PREVENTIVE CARE. DO YOU WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS ON THE PREVENTIVE CARE SLIDE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE CERVICAL CANCER SCREENING HAS GONE DOWN CONSIDERABLY BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025. WE'RE AT 19% FOR THE SCREENINGS. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON YOUR PLAN THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SCREENINGS, BENCHMARKS, 25%, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR COLORECTAL SCREENINGS THAN BENCHMARK. AND THE SAME THING FOR MAMMOGRAMS. I DO THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY FOR PREVENTIVE SCREENINGS OVERALL IN GENERAL FOR YOUR POPULATION. AND THEN I WILL SAY POINT OUT THAT YOUR WELL, YOUNG, WELL CHILD SCHOOL AGE CARE YOU'RE SITTING AT, YOU WENT FROM 59% TO 71%. SO THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS MAYBE A PROGRAM THAT WAS HAPPENING WITHIN YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN 2024 THAT ALLOWED FOR PEOPLE TO MAYBE GET SOME ON SITE CARE, WHICH WAS THE REASON WHY THAT CHANGED SO SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT YOU CAN JUST SEE, OVERALL, YOUR CHILDREN CARE ON THESE PLANS HAVE INCREASED QUITE A BIT. SO EVEN THE WELL, SCHOOL AGED CHILD CARE HAS INCREASED, WHICH IS GREAT. FOR YOUR PHARMACY. TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, YOUR OVERALL TREND FOR PHARMACY IS 13.8%, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OUR NATIONAL TREND ON PHARMACY. AND YOUR SPECIALTY PHARMACY TAKES UP A LITTLE OVER ALMOST 47% OF YOUR TOTAL SPEND FOR YOUR COST DRIVERS, DIABETES 
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AND AUTOIMMUNE ARE THE LARGEST SPEND CATEGORIES THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR MEDICATIONS. GLP ONE IS A PART OF THAT. I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE IN THE PAST. YOU DO NOT COVER GLP ONE FOR WEIGHT LOSS INDICATORS INDICATORS. SO THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR DIABETES INDICATORS. AND THAT'S JUST A COVERED CATEGORY YOU HAVE. YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN THIS POSITION WITH GLP ONE. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH YOUR PHARMACY PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TODAY TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE APPROVE, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE FOR THE MEDICAL OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK AFTER WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT PROGRAMS WE CAN PUT IN PLACE, AND THEN TACKLE THAT WELLNESS PIECE AS WELL. COST DRIVERS AND EMERGING RISKS. YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR TOP TRADITIONAL DRUGS ARE YOUR MOUNJARO OZEMPIC. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE ARE ON THERE. AND THEN THAT ONE AT THE BOTTOM, I BELIEVE IS A MIGRAINE MEDICATION. AND THEN WE LOOK AT YOUR TOP SPECIALTY DRUGS. AGAIN, YOU HAVE AUTOIMMUNE, SO HUMIRA. AND THEN THE OTHER ONES THAT I CANNOT PRONOUNCE THE NAMES OF. BUT YOUR SPECIALTY REPRESENTS NEARLY HALF YOUR SPEND AND CONTINUES TO OUTPACE YOUR NORMAL TRADITIONAL SPEND. NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WITH THESE, A LOT OF THESE MEDICATIONS, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE FOR YOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON YOUR PLANS, THAT HAVE THESE CONDITIONS, THEY JUST COME WITH A COST. AND SO AGAIN, IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO CONTAIN COSTS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, USUALLY THAT'S THROUGH MAKING SURE YOUR POPULATION IS HEALTHIER. THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL WOULD BE. I WILL SAY ON A POSITIVE, YOU HAVE SOME PROGRAM SAVINGS WITHIN YOUR PHARMACY PLAN RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD. SO THERE'S SOME UTILIZATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, A BALANCED DRUG LIST THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAS A GOOD MIX OF THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED AND EXCLUDED. THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A MEDICATION OR A CHRONIC CONDITION OR CONDITION THAT SOMEONE HAS THAT WILL NOT HAVE A MEDICATION ASSOCIATED ON YOUR DRUG PLAN. SO EVEN IF WE START TO NARROW YOUR FORMULARY DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME MEDICATION THAT CAN TREAT WHATEVER INDICATOR THAT SOMEONE HAS SOME SPECIALTY PHARMACY MEDICATIONS. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PROGRAMS IN PLACE, BUT OVER $1 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS ON YOUR PHARMACY PLAN RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES THAT I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH REALLY QUICK THAT I'D LIKE TO AT THE END, I'LL TALK THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT. SO PLAN, SPEND AND PLAN WASTE. SO PLAN SPEND. THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED FLEX ACCESS, WHICH IS A MANUFACTURER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO ESSENTIALLY WHEN AN EMPLOYEE OR MEMBER GOES TO A PHARMACY AND THEY SAY THIS IS A MEDICATION I'M TAKING, THEY WILL FIND AND SOURCE THE LOWEST COST OPTION AND FIND THE COUPONS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEDICATION. 
          THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S A WIN FOR THE MOST EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOWER COST AND FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LOWER COST OPTION. I WILL SAY THE ONE DRAWBACK TO THIS PROGRAM IS, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IT'S A DRAWBACK, BUT AN INDIVIDUAL CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT STATE THAT THEY ARE, IF THEY GO TO THE PHARMACY AND GET A COUPON FOR A MEDICATION, THAT COUPON CODE WILL APPLY TOWARDS THEIR DEDUCTIBLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PAYING THOSE DOLLARS OUT OF POCKET. THIS PROGRAM ELIMINATES THAT. SO IT'S NOT BEEN THE INTENTION OF THE COUNTY. I BELIEVE, TO SAY THAT IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS A COUPON THAT THAT APPLIES TO THEIR DEDUCTIBLE, THEY SHOULD BE PAYING THOSE DOLLARS OUT OF POCKET VERSUS HAVING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FREE MONEY THROUGH THE PHARMACY. SO THAT'S, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME NOISE ON THAT IF WE IMPLEMENT THAT. BUT I'M LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD WANT TO GO WITH THAT PROGRAM. THE OTHER PROGRAM IS FOR PLAN WASTE. IT'S A SPLIT PROGRAM. SO FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF MEDICATIONS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE HIGH SIDE EFFECTS AND ARE EXPENSIVE MEDICATIONS, I GET PRESCRIBED A PRESCRIPTION INSTEAD OF GETTING A 30 DAY SUPPLY OR 90 DAY SUPPLY IMMEDIATELY, I MIGHT GET A 15 DAY SUPPLY TO SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THAT MEDICATION BEFORE THEY FILL OUT THE REST OF THE WAY. SO FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THAT MEDICATION FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND YOU RECOGNIZE MY BODY DOES NOT LIKE THIS AT ALL. AND SO YOU PUT IT INTO A CABINET AND YOU NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN. AND IF YOUR MEDICATION IS $8,000 A MONTH, THAT'S A PRETTY EXPENSIVE LOSS THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT MEDICATION THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH AFTERWARDS. SO FOR A MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY WON'T HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL MEDICATIONS CLUTTERING UP THEIR CLOSETS, BUT ALSO FROM A PLAN PERSPECTIVE AND PLAN WASTE PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND DOESN'T CAUSE A LOT OF NOISE BECAUSE AN INDIVIDUAL IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE PHARMACY ADDITIONAL TIME TO PICK UP THE REST OF THEIR MEDICATION, BUT AT LEAST THEY KNOW IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THEM VERSUS HAVING SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T USE. SO I TALKED A LOT REAL QUICK ON THAT, BUT I WANTED TO PAUSE HERE BEFORE I PASS OVER TO SEAN TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET, TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRIORITIES, ABOUT WHAT WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING FOR THE PHARMACY PIECE OR ANYTHING ON THE MEDICAL PLAN, ON HOW THAT'S RUNNING CURRENTLY. SO TO SUMMARIZE, Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT WE MOVE BACK TO A WELLNESS OR A WELLNESS PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE A PCP, AND THEN THESE TWO PHARMACY PROGRAMS, WHAT WERE THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? CORRECT. SO FOR I'LL GO BACK TO THE WELLNESS ONE, SEAN TALKS ABOUT BUDGET, BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE 
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RECOMMENDATION. HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE'S A FEW ADDITIONAL MEDICAL PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN TURN ON WITHIN YOUR BLUE CROSS PROGRAM THAT WE CAN LOOK TO FOCUS ON SPECIFIC DISEASE STATES. AND SO INSTEAD OF SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY, I'D RATHER HAVE THE COMMITTEE COME BACK AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO FOR EITHER A, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GO GET THEIR VISITS. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN PLACE, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. AND BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD HAS A NEW SOME NEW WELLNESS, A NEW WELLNESS PLATFORM EDITION THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE THAT WILL HELP US WITH THAT. TRACKING HELPS US SOME, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUMP FORWARD, I'LL DO THIS AND I'LL JUMP BACK TO SEAN AFTERWARDS. SO CURRENTLY FOR YOUR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, YOU HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED WELL ON TARGET, WHICH GIVES YOU YOUR HEALTH ASSESSMENTS, YOUR BLUE POINTS. IT HAS SOME COACHING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S TWO OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OR THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO THAT. LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN THAT YOU CAN ADD THIS YEAR. ONE IS A CORE OPTION, WHICH BASICALLY ADDS SOME ADDITIONAL HOLISTIC WELL-BEING CONTENT. ADD SOME CLAIMS INTEGRATION FOR PREVENTIVE SCREENINGS, AND THEN A COMMUNITY WELL-BEING INDEX, WHICH IS GREAT. HOWEVER, THE OTHER ONE HAS CORE BENEFITS. PLUS IT HAS THE ABILITY TO CO-BRAND WITH JOHNSON COUNTY LOGOS, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. THIS IS AN INITIATIVE OF THE COUNTY. THERE'LL BE AN EMPLOYEE SPECIFIC BENEFITS PAGE THAT THEY CAN GO ON TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEIR WELLNESS, WHAT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM, HOW THAT WORKS. THERE'S ENHANCED REPORTING. IT ALSO HAS 1 TO 1 LIFESTYLE MANAGEMENT COACHING. 
          SO LET'S SAY I NEED TO TALK TO A NUTRITIONIST OR LET'S SAY I WANT TO TRY AND GET MY DIABETES UNDER CONTROL. I'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT 1 TO 1 COACHING. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO EMPLOYER LEVEL WELLNESS CHALLENGES, WHICH I'LL TALK THROUGH WITH THE COMMITTEE WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, IF WE APPROVE THE CONFIGURABLE VERSION. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN HAVE WELL-BEING, EMPLOYER LIKE LARGE LEVEL CHALLENGES WHERE YOU CAN SAY, LET'S DO A STEP CHALLENGE AS AN ORGANIZATION, OR LET'S DO SOMETHING SO YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED WITHIN OUTSIDE OF JUST GETTING THE ANNUAL SCREENINGS, I WOULD SAY MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MAKE THOSE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF AN INCENTIVE FOR THAT, BUT MAYBE JUST THAT, THAT FEEL GOOD PIECE OF A WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP A LOT. IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME ADDITIONAL PIECES ON TOBACCO CESSATION, WHICH IS RANDY'S FAVORITE TOPICS JUST IN GENERAL. AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S YOU CAN DO REWARDABLE ACTIVITIES IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO. WE'LL TALK TO THE COMMITTEE IN DETAILS ON THIS. BUT REALLY WHAT THE IDEA IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO A PROGRAM, LET'S MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST. AND SO AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION ULTIMATELY FOR ME WHEN WE TALK TO THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO DO THE HAVE THE ANNUAL PHYSICALS, BUT THERE'S SOME WAYS TO HELP THAT, TO MAKE IT SO IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE. AND THEN ALSO MAYBE HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES AVAILABLE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SENDING ME A BOX OF PEANUTS, ARE YOU? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY NOT PEANUTS. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO THEM OR NOT. SO WE'LL WE'LL TRY AND KEEP YOU AWAY FROM HAVING ANY ALLERGIES. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE THERE'S ADDITIONAL COST TO THIS. SO IT'S $0.75 FOR THE THE CORE PROGRAM, WHICH OFFERS SOME PIECES ON THERE, BUT THE CONFIGURABLE PROGRAM IS AN ADDITIONAL $1.50 PEPM BUT AGAIN, IT HAS INCENTIVE REPORTING, COACHING AND TOBACCO CESSATION AGAIN. AND YOU COULD ALSO INTEGRATE WITH THIRD PARTY VENDORS. SO IF WE WERE LOOKING TO ADD IN SOMETHING LIKE OUR BREAST CANCER SCREENINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN HAVE INTEGRATIONS WITH THOSE THIRD PARTIES OUTSIDE OF THE BLUE CROSS PROGRAM. AND SO FOR ME, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPTION FOR US TO LOOK AT. SO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS ON WELLNESS? AND I'LL HOP BACK OVER TO SEAN BECAUSE I JUMP FORWARD REAL QUICK. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO HOP BACK TO SEAN TO TALK NUMBERS. GOOD MORNING. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS OUR BUDGET SUMMARY. WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS IN THIS BUDGET SUMMARY. TO THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO 2025 THROUGH 2026 FISCAL YEAR. IF I START THERE, THE BUDGET COLUMN IN THE 2526 FISCAL YEAR, THAT BUDGET IS WHAT WE SET IN THE PRIOR YEAR. WE ALWAYS SET OUR BUDGET ONE FULL YEAR IN ADVANCE. SO WHEN WE TRANSITION OVER TO THE SECOND HALF OF THE SLIDE, WE WILL BE SETTING BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN, WE SET A BUDGET BASED ON A HEAD COUNT OF 756, AND WE SET THAT BUDGET, ASSUMING THAT THE PROJECTED NET COST OF THE PEPM NET COST WOULD BE 1421. SO PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH, WE ESTIMATED IN THE BUDGET PROJECTION THAT 1421 TO BE THE COUNTY'S EXPENSE. THE 
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GROSS COST IS THE. 1587 WE BACK OUT WHAT YOU YOUR COMPOSITE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVE AT THE 1421. THE NUMBERS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE ARE JUST THOSE PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH NUMBERS ANNUALIZED. SO WE BUDGETED AND PROJECTED A NET COST TO THE COUNTY OF 12.8 MILLION FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THE FORECAST COLUMN IS. NOW THAT WE ARE IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE UPDATED OUR PROJECTIONS WITH ACTUAL CLAIMS. SO NOW THAT WE'VE UPDATED WITH ACTUAL CLAIMS, WE'RE STILL PROJECTING THROUGH THE END OF YOUR FISCAL YEAR. BUT WE ARE PROJECTING THAT THAT NET COST EXPENSE ON A PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH BASIS BASIS WILL ACTUALLY END AT 1380 INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL 1421 THAT CARRIES THROUGH TO THE FORECASTED EXPENSE FOR THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO COME IN AT 12.5 MILLION. SO BETTER THAN OUR PROJECTION, THE COLUMN TO THE RIGHT OF THE FORECAST COLUMN IS MORE. LOOK AT THAT AS YOUR ACTUAL COLUMN. SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE COUNTY IS ACTUALLY DOING. SO THE BUDGET IS HOLMES MURPHY'S PROJECTED NUMBER. THE FORECAST IS HOLMES MURPHY'S UPDATED PROJECTION AND THEN THE COUNTY BUDGET. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE REALLY OUR ACTUALS. SO THE PEPM NET COST TO THE COUNTY IS THE 1129. AND THEN THE GROSS EXPENSES ARE ACTUALLY ACCRUING FOR IS THE TEN FOUR. AND THE VARIANCE IN THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL BEING PULLED FROM. YOU HAD A HIGHER YOU HAD AND HAVE A HIGHER FUND BALANCE. SO WE'RE TAKING SOME DOLLARS FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. IF WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, OUR PROJECTION FOR NEXT YEAR IS THAT YOUR NET PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH NUMBERS, YOUR COST WILL INCREASE TO 1583. THAT IS, THAT INCREASE ON A GROSS BASIS IS ABOUT 10%. IT'S DRIVEN BY ALL THE THINGS THAT JULIE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, THE LARGER LARGE CLAIMANT EXPENSE, THE INCREASE IN PHARMACY SPEND. SO ON A, ON A NET ANNUAL BASIS, OUR PROJECTION FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS THE 14.5 MILLION. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A WITH CHANGES COLUMN IN THERE. AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S SUPER CLOSE TO WHAT THE THE PROJECTION IS, WHICH IS THE 14.3 MILLION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THAT DIFFERENCE IS $193,000. WHAT YOU'RE ALSO NOTICE IN THE WITH CHANGES COLUMN IS THE INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO WE WILL TALK THROUGH OUR RECOMMENDATION OR THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS TO HAVE AN INCREASE THIS YEAR, A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT'S REALLY JUST TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE INCREASES THAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING AS AS A COUNTY. SO AS THE COUNTY'S COST IS INCREASING, WE'RE SHIFTING OR SHARING SOME OF THAT COST WITH EMPLOYEES. TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THIS SLIDE IS THE PROJECTED COUNTY BUDGET. SO THIS IS WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN UNDER MR. WATSON AND HIS FINANCIAL TEAM. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE COUNTY BUDGET AMOUNT. SO YOU'VE GOT THE GROSS COST. YOU'VE GOT THE NET COST THAT THE COUNTY WILL BUDGET FOR AT 1509. AND THEN THE ANNUAL NET COST CARRIES DOWN. IT'S THE $14 MILLION. IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE HOMES MURPHY PROJECTION. AND AGAIN, ANY DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE COVERED BY THE FUND BALANCE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET SUMMARY BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL POINT OUT TO THE COURT MEMBERS AS WE MOVE INTO BUDGET WORKSHOPS NEXT WEEK, THE THE NUMBER THAT I THINK IS THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY ON THIS IS THAT, BOTTOM LINE, THE NET CHANGE TO BUDGET, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WOULD INCREASE. AND THE PROJECTION IS SOMEWHERE IN THE $1.5 MILLION RANGE. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE BOTTOM BOTTOM BOTTOM LINE. 
          YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR. WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION PIECE HAS TO INCREASE BY AT LEAST A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO STAY TO KEEP PACE WITH THE INSURANCE PLAN. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME INCREASES TO CONTRIBUTIONS FOR EMPLOYER EMPLOYEES. BUT THAT'S OF ALL THE NUMBERS. THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY. I THINK THE GOAL WOULD BE TO INCREASE 
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THAT NUMBER MORE, BECAUSE THAT STILL RELIES ON EXPENDING INTEREST EARNED WITHIN THAT ACCOUNT AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HOLMES MURPHY'S PROJECTIONS. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A NUMBER AWAY FROM IT, REMEMBER THAT ONE. AND HOW'S THAT WORKING INTO THE BUDGET? PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THERE? JUDGE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE CERTIFIED APPRAISALS. THEY'RE DUE. STATUTORY DEADLINE IS 5:00 TODAY, SO I WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF THAT ANSWER IN ABOUT 48 HOURS. WHAT IS THE YOU KNOW, WE START TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEE INCREASES FOR THEIR SHARE. I'M JUST IS THERE A WAY TO MITIGATE THIS WITH INSTEAD OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INITIAL COST. WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR'S VISIT, YOU HAVE THE OUT OF POCKET, THE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE. IF YOU INCREASE THAT, WOULD IT BRING THIS DOWN OR. I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BECAUSE THAT ADDITIONAL COST TO THE EMPLOYEES, IF IT'S GOING TO BE PASSED ON THROUGH THIS, THROUGH HAVING TO POSSIBLY RAISE TAXES TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF THIS KEEPS GOING UP, YOU START TALKING ABOUT $2 MILLION. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT A LITTLE BETTER THAN A HALF CENT OR BETTER ON THE TAX RATE. SO I DON'T KNOW. IS IT FOR THE UP FRONT COST? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE NEGOTIATED. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SELF FUNDED. WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THOSE BAD YEARS. YES. 
          LAST YEAR WAS OUR BAD YEAR. 2026 IS RUNNING A LITTLE BETTER. SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TWO BAD YEARS RIGHT IN A ROW. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, MAKE PLANNED CHANGES TO, TO POSSIBLY OFFSET SOME OF THIS INCREASE. WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH. HISTORY WISE, YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE FULLY FUNDED, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY DID WHEN THEY STEPPED UP HERE AFTER THEY SAID, HEY, YOUR PLAN'S GOING UP 30% FOR RENEWAL. WE COULDN'T DO THAT. SO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. OUR PLAN IS, IS VERY GOOD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. PROBABLY BEST IT'S BEEN, I WOULD HOPE WE COULD KIND OF ADJUST AND STAY WITH THIS ADJUSTMENT, THEN START ATTACKING THE PLAN AGAIN. WE'RE NOT TALKING 30% RENEWALS AS WE WOULD HAVE IN THE PAST. 
          SO I WOULD CAUTION THE COURT FOR LOOKING AT MAKING ANY KIND OF PLAN CHANGES CURRENTLY. 
          RIGHT NOW IT WAS JUST A QUESTION. YES, I UNDERSTAND AND AND AGAIN, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT 25, 30, 35% INCREASE, WHICH WE'VE HEARD ACROSS THE STATE FROM SOME OF THE ARE LOOKING AT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. I WOULD HOPE THE COURT LEAVE THE PLANS ALONE. THEY'RE GOOD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW, AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO START BEATING UP THOSE. I DO HAVE A RELATED QUESTION. I KNOW OUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, THE OUT OF OUT OF POCKET MAXIMUM IS DRIVEN BY SOME REGULATION ON THOSE KIND OF PLANS. HOW CLOSE ARE WE? I KNOW WE SAID OUR OUT OF POCKET MAXIMUM AT $4,000 ACROSS ALL. 
          LOOK TO SEE WHAT YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS, BUT THE IRS CHANGES A $50 INCREASE. SO IT'S A SMALL. AND THAT IS THE WAY THE IRS MAKES THOSE CHANGES EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THEY'RE INCREMENTAL. SO LET ME LOOK TO SEE WHAT YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS. AND OUR OUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE IS $4,000. YOU'RE FINE. OKAY. YOU I KNOW WE SAID IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HEAD SPACE, BUT THEN INFLATION HAS BEEN HIGH AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE. YEAH. AND I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. SO THAT AS THE IRS MADE THEIR SMALL ADJUSTMENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, YOU ALL WOULD ALSO NOT HAVE TO COMMUNICATE A CHANGE TO YOUR EMPLOYEES EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO IT'S KIND OF STRATEGIC TO GET AHEAD OF IT A LITTLE BIT. I BELIEVE YOU'RE STILL FINE. I WILL VERIFY THAT WITH JULIE, BUT I THINK WHERE YOU'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A REQUIRED CHANGE TO SUPPORT THE IRS. CHANGE THOSE DEDUCTIBLES IS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT TOO. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'LL KEEP MOVING, BUT WE WILL, COMMISSIONER RILEY. WE'LL KEEP SOME OF THOSE. WE'LL KEEP THOSE THINGS AT TOP OF MIND. AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE MULTIPLE LEVERS TO, TO PULL RIGHT. EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS, PLAN DESIGN. AND WE TRY TO PULL THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST MEANINGFUL BASED ON WHERE YOU'RE SITTING FROM AN INCREASED PERSPECTIVE. SO IN FUTURE YEARS, I AGREE WITH RANDY. WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT AT SOME POINT, BUT FOR THIS YEAR, THIS SEEMS REASONABLE AND IT STILL SUPPORTS THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU ARE ALSO SHOULDERING THE MAJORITY OF THAT INCREASE. SO 
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YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN TO ALSO SUPPORT YOUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL. OKAY, OKAY. THIS IS A LOOK AT THOSE EMPLOYEE PREMIUMS. SO I REFERENCED WE'D HAVE A SLIGHT EMPLOYEE INCREASE TO PREMIUMS. THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE CHANGE THAT MEMBERS WILL SEE IN THEIR PAYCHECKS. SO THIS IS A PER PAY PERIOD PREMIUM CHANGE. IF I'M ON THE PPO PLAN THE RANGES FROM $12 TO $50 IF I'VE GOT FAMILY COVERAGE. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE HMO PLAN $5 TO $47 BASED ON IF YOU HAVE FAMILY COVERAGE. AND THEN THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN, ALSO $50. SO IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, I SAY THE WORST CASE, BUT SOMEONE WHO HAS FAMILY COVERAGE ON YOUR MOST EXPENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $50 INCREASE. OKAY. AND THEN, JULIE, THAT TAKES US BACK TO WELLNESS. AND I THINK WE'VE KIND OF ROUNDED OUT THE WELLNESS. SO SEAN, I WOULD JUST ADD THE OTHER ITEM ABOUT THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASES. IF YOU LOOK AT THEM BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE ON PLAN. SO DEPENDENTS ARE NOT DEPENDENTS FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY PLANS, WHICH IS STILL THE BULK OF OUR OUR PLANS. NO INCREASE ON THE FREE PLAN, A $10 A MONTH INCREASE ON THE HMO AND A $25 INCREASE. YES. SO WE'RE WE THE COMMITTEE TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THOSE INCREASES. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT OF SOME OF THE EXPENSE TO FAMILY PLANS. SO I THINK THE MOST EXPENSIVE FAMILY PLAN INCREASES. MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE JUDGE, RIGHT. SO THERE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 55 PEOPLE SEEING THAT MAXIMUM INCREASE. IT IS THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES. THE BULK OF YOUR EMPLOYEES WILL SEE A $0 CHANGE, A $5 CHANGE OR $12 CHANGE. AND THAT DOES WHATEVER COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT WE APPROVE WITHIN THE COURT WILL EXCEED WHATEVER THIS INCREASE IS. SO NOBODY THERE'S THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY, EVEN IF YOU'RE OUR LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY AND YOU'RE ENSURING YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY ON THE PPO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE LESS DOLLARS COMING HOME BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING, AGAIN, I THINK WAS IMPORTANT TO THE THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE TO, TO MAKE SURE NOBODY TOOK A, AN ACTUAL PAY CUT BECAUSE OF INSURANCE. VERY NICE. AND I MEAN, AS A COUNTY, I MEAN, WE HAVE WE DO THIS ALL DAY AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT SIMILAR INCREASES TO THEIR PREMIUMS AND ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROTECT THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND I THINK YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THIS PARTICULAR FINANCIAL SCENARIO OF PROTECTING YOUR BASE. OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, I APPLAUD THE COURTS. WE'VE GONE THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS WITHOUT AN INCREASE. 
          THAT'S IN TODAY'S WORLD. THAT'S ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE. AGAIN, WE KNOW WHAT COST WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH INFLATION WISE. PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO TO DEAL WITH ARE IN THE SAME BOAT. THE COST FOR HEALTH CARE IS JUST KEEPS GOING UP. BUT AGAIN, HOSPITALS FACE THE SAME INCREASE AS WE DID AS MOST. ONE OF THE TOP IS LABOR. THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, OUTPATIENT CLINICS, THEY'RE ALL RAISING THEIR COSTS BECAUSE OF INFLATION. SAME THING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE AS A COUNTY. AGAIN, THIS IS A MINIMAL. INCREASE. AND AGAIN, OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT SEEN A CHANGE IN THEIR PREMIUMS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. WE'VE BEEN EXCELLENT. YOU KNOW, AND IT GOES BACK DOWN TO WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT. BUT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING SOME. SO COMMISSIONER BAILEY'S POINT, THERE'S ABILITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LONG TERM IMPACT WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. AND THE BIGGEST WAY TO DO THAT, YES, WE CAN LOOK AT PLAN DESIGN CHANGES IN THE FUTURE. IDEALLY, I'D LOVE IT IF WE CAN GET A HEALTHIER POPULATION BECAUSE THAT WILL KEEP YOUR COSTS DOWN. BUT IT ALSO KEEPS PEOPLE HAPPIER. THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IS BETTER WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOUR POPULATION IS HEALTHIER IN GENERAL. SO A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE OUR BUDGET NUMBERS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED, THE PHARMACY PROGRAMS, AGAIN, RECOMMENDING THE SPLIT FILL PROGRAM AND THE FLEX ACCESS PROGRAM. I THINK BOTH OF THOSE ARE GREAT PROGRAMS TO HELP OFFSET COSTS AND REDUCE WASTE. JUST IN GENERAL FOR THE WELLNESS ENHANCEMENT, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE CONFIGURABLE WELLNESS ENHANCEMENT. I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA SPEND. HOWEVER, I THINK ULTIMATELY, FOR OUR LONG TERM GOALS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO. FIX YOUR POPULATION. SORRY ABOUT THAT, IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME PROGRAMS IN PLACE 
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TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE GET HEALTHIER. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP THAT I'LL HAVE IS I WILL MEET AGAIN WITH THE COMMITTEE TO TALK THROUGH THE WELLNESS PROGRAM PARAMETERS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS INCENTIVES GO, OR AND THEN ALSO TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO INTO A LOT MORE INFORMATION WITH THE COMMITTEE ABOUT WHERE THE HEALTHIER POPULATION IS AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT WE HAVE, AND THEN RECOMMEND THOSE PROGRAMS. AND IF WE HAVE THE CONFIGURABLE PROGRAM, WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER WAY TO COMMUNICATE TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS ON YOUR PLAN OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM, TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM AGAIN, CONTINUE ON A JOURNEY OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW. LET ME REMIND THE COURT AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN JULY, BUT JUST FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, THESE CHANGES WILL NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST. OUR PLAN YEAR START. CORRECT. I KNOW, I KNOW THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE HAS TO MEET AGAIN. 
          AND THERE WERE WE HAD A BRIEF MEETING AT THE END OF LAST WEEK ABOUT ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS. BRIEF AN HOUR AND A HALF. YEAH, YEAH, BRIEF BRIEF AS IN WE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND AND I DON'T THINK WE MADE A BRIEFING MEETING, BUT SOME INTERESTING THINGS OUT THERE THAT I THINK ADDRESS SOME OF THE COST ISSUES WITHOUT TAKING ANYTHING FROM THE EMPLOYEES. I ESPECIALLY LIKE THERE WAS A POTENTIAL PROGRAM WE CAN ENROLL IN THAT EMPLOYEES IF THEY'RE PRESCRIBED OUTPATIENT, YOU KNOW, CAT SCAN OR MRI, THAT THEY CAN GO ON TO THE BLUE CROSS APP AND FIND PROVIDERS THAT ARE IN NETWORK AND GET A QUOTE FROM A DOZEN DIFFERENT PLACES AND COMPARE ALL AT ONCE AT A GLANCE AND PICK THE CHEAPEST PLACE TO GO GET THE SCAN. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO USE THAT ONE, BUT IT'S CHEAPER FOR THEM AND FOR THE PLAN. AND I THINK THAT KIND OF TRANSPARENCY IS ALWAYS VALUABLE. YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT WILL STEER PEOPLE TO LOWER COST ALTERNATIVES FOR, FOR HEALTH CARE. AND I WILL SAY THAT LOWER COST, SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, IS IT AS THE GUY IN THE BACK OF THE ALLEY WITH A KNIFE, YOU KNOW, SAYING, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR GALLBLADDER OUT? IT'S NOT OFTENTIMES THE REASON WHY THINGS ARE LESS EXPENSIVE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGHER, BETTER EFFICIENCIES, FEWER READMISSION RATES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THERE COULD BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO STEER PEOPLE TOWARDS QUALITY CARE THAT IS JUST TECHNOLOGICALLY, LIKE TECHNOLOGICALLY. IT'S JUST BETTER JUST CARE IN GENERAL. I CAN'T SPEAK THIS MORNING. IT'S BETTER CARE IN GENERAL. AND SO IT'S AGAIN, FEWER READMISSIONS, FEWER COMPLICATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WHICH INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STEER THEM TOWARDS THAT, IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO PLAN BUT BETTER FOR THE EMPLOYEE OVERALL. I'LL ALSO NOTE FOR THE COURT THAT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT JULIE WILL WALK THROUGH THAT ARE CLINICAL PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SAVINGS ASSOCIATED. AND SO THE SAVINGS THAT YOUR COST WILL END UP NETTING OUT. SO FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, JULIE HAS REVIEWED ALL THOSE PROGRAMS WITH ME. AND THERE'S STILL A SAVINGS. SO I WILL BE ABLE TO BAKE SAVINGS INTO YOUR BUDGET. AND YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO COVER THE COST OF THE PROGRAM AND WALK AWAY WITH SAVINGS. SO JUST KNOW THAT AS YOU ALL ARE REVIEWING THOSE FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, ANY CHANGE THAT YOU MAKE WITH ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM, I'LL STILL HAVE SAVINGS TO ADD TO YOUR TO YOUR BUDGET FROM THOSE THINGS. YEAH. AND TO SEAN'S POINT, DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAMS WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT IMPACT YOUR STOP LOSS RENEWAL FOR THIS YEAR. 
          SO JUST KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH THAT. AND THEN IF SEAN HAS THAT, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT BACK INTO YOUR BUDGET NUMBERS FOR LATER TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT SAVINGS TO YOUR RENEWAL FOR YOUR STOP LOSS. WE'VE GOT SAVINGS TO YOUR PLAN BECAUSE WE HAVE EITHER SOMETIMES THEY'LL HAVE EVEN PERFORMANCE GUARANTEES IN PLACE FOR SOME OF THESE THIRD PARTY PIECES THAT SAYS, IF WE DON'T SAVE YOU X AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE PAY YOU BACK SO MUCH. SO WE'LL TRY AND MAKE IT SO IT'S NOT COSTING THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF POCKET, BUT IT'S TRULY IMPACTING THOSE CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR POPULATION TO MAKE, AGAIN, YOUR POPULATION HEALTHIER OVERALL. I WANT TO SHARE, AGAIN, A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT WE PAY FOR INSURANCE AND, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING ON A PPO PLAN AND YOU DO ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, YOU ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS, ARE WE IN NETWORK? ARE WE SURE WE'RE IN NETWORK TO BE BILLED BY AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST THAT HAD AN ASSISTANT IN THE ROOM FROM ANOTHER STATE. THE MONEY WENT TO SOMEWHERE IN GEORGIA. IT COST ME $800 OUT OF POCKET. I'VE NEVER GOTTEN A RESPONSE BACK FROM ANY OF THAT, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO NOTE TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          IF YOU'RE ON PPO OR HMO, WHICHEVER PLAN YOU'RE ON, THERE'S, THERE'S, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL IT A RISK BECAUSE I'VE YET TO BE RETURNED MY MONEY FROM THAT OR FROM OR REALLY A SIGNIFICANT REASON OTHER THAN THEY HAD A TRAINEE IN THE ROOM THAT DAY AND I PAID THAT COST FOR THAT EXPENSE FOR THAT TRAINEE TO BE HERE. YEAH. SO, SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THESE PROVIDERS AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO IF THEY DID IT 
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TO ME, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT TO, TO OTHER EMPLOYEES AS WELL. AND I CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND WITH YOURS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON YOURS. BUT I WILL SAY THERE'S SOME ABILITIES TO EVEN DO THINGS. THERE'S SOME SURGICAL SOLUTION, THIRD PARTY THINGS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY YOU CARVE OUT PART OF IT AS A VOLUNTARY BENEFIT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET CASE RATES AND IT IS EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED IN THE ONE RATE, AND IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT IT IS FOR YOUR PLAN. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL TALK THROUGH THE COMMITTEE ON. SO THERE'S SOME ABILITY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, OFFSET SOME OF THOSE PIECES. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SURPRISE BILLING JUST IN GENERAL. THAT'S PART OF THE RULINGS. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THE NO SURPRISES ACT SHOULD BE IN PLACE. SO I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT OFFLINE, ABOUT YOURS SPECIFICALLY. BUT I MEAN, OVERALL, THERE'S SOME ABILITY, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE SAVE DOLLARS. AND AGAIN, IF THEY'RE HELPING YOUR MEMBERS SAVE DOLLARS OR YOUR EMPLOYEES SAVE DOLLARS ON THE PLAN, ULTIMATELY, THE PLAN IS SAVING MONEY TOO. 
          SO YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WHEN RANDY'S TALKING ABOUT TREND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 9.3 FOR MEDICAL, 11% FOR PHARMACY. AND THAT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM PLAN JUST TO KIND OF RIDE THAT RISK. SO WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO BE ABLE TO HELP MITIGATE IT LONG TERM. AND AGAIN, GET YOUR EMPLOYEE POPULATION MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR OWN HEALTH STATUS. AND SO WE WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS TOO. RECOGNIZING THAT I HAD NOT MET ALL OF MY OUT-OF-POCKET ON THE DEDUCTIBLE, BUT I DID PAY IT UP FRONT WITH THE BALANCE. RIGHT. 
          OKAY, SO MY THOUGHTS WERE I WAS, IS HELPING IN THAT SITUATION A LOT. AND AGAIN, AS SHARKS SHOWED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, OUR IN-NETWORK WAS RUNNING AT 99. I MEAN, YEAH, VERY GOOD. OUR EMPLOYEES ARE A LOT MORE EDUCATED TODAY THAN WHAT THEY USED TO BE. AS FAR AS IN-NETWORK COSTS IN EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS ARE NOT AS FREQUENT AS THEY USED TO BE. CORRECT. 
          YES. THAT USED TO BE VERY HIGH. AND SAME THING WITH URGENT CARE. AND SO IF WE HAVE ABILITIES TO GIVE PROGRAMS FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY THE TELEMEDICINE PROGRAMS, AND BE ABLE TO PROMOTE PROMOTE THINGS AROUND THOSE, THAT HELPS PEOPLE A LOT. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, I MEAN, IF MY ARM IS FALLING OFF, I'M ABSOLUTELY GOING TO THE ER, BUT IF I HAVE AN EAR INFECTION, I TELL THE DOCTOR MORE THAN THAN APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO GO THROUGH JUST IN GENERAL. SO BUT WE WILL TALK THROUGH, I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU OFFLINE. BUT OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE PRACTICE TO HAVE THAT THAT RISK CONTINUE TO GROW WITHOUT HAVING PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO HELP MITIGATE IT LONG TERM. PART OF THE ISSUE. SO WE'LL HAVE I SPECIFICALLY LOOKED INTO YOUR CLAIM, SO I'LL HAVE JULIE GIVE YOU A CALL TO STEP THROUGH IT. PART OF THE ISSUE, JUST FOR EVERYONE ON THE PANEL, IT WAS HOW BLUE CROSS GENERATED THAT EXPLANATION OF BENEFITS AND HOW THEY PAID THE PROVIDER. THAT CAUSED A LOT OF THE THE CONFUSION. AND IF IT HAPPENED TO YOU'RE AN EDUCATED BUYER, IF THAT EXACT IF YOU HAD ANOTHER HAD AN EMPLOYEE WHO HAD THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED, THEY TOO WOULD BULLY THE WAY THAT EXPLANATION OF BENEFIT. THOSE CLAIMS PROCESS LIKE THAT. THERE WAS AN ISSUE WHEN REALLY THE ISSUE WAS JUST BLUE CROSS AND THE PROCESSING. SO WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I LITERALLY WENT LINE BY LINE THROUGH YOUR CLAIM. SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH IT. BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS HOW DO WE PROTECT YOUR EMPLOYEES FROM HAVING THAT EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE? AND THAT I THINK WE'VE SOMEWHAT ATTEMPTED TO SOLVE FOR WITH BLUE CROSS ON A GO FORWARD BASIS, BECAUSE YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SURPRISE BILLING, AND IT WAS HOW THEY PROCESSED THE CLAIM. I FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS A HOAX BECAUSE THE FIRST THE FIRST BILL, THE FIRST BILL BASICALLY OPENED IT IN THIS MATTER IS NOT RESOLVED. WITHIN SO MANY DAYS. THERE'LL BE A JUDGMENT. YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT WAS, I WAS THIS A JOKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE FIRST INVOICE ON THE THING. SO, YOU KNOW, I CALLED THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YEAH, YOU HAD THIS PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, SO THEN I CALLED YOU OR RANDY, I WANT TO CALL, BUT BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO TAKE THAT IN. AND OUR EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT VERY WELL EITHER. SO VERY FAIR. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WHAT ACTION DO WE NEED TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD? SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE APPROVING APPROVING THE BUDGET TODAY BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE HAVING. I WOULD LIKE APPROVAL FOR THE PHARMACY PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ADD THE SPLIT FILL AND THE FLEX ACCESS. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO SELECT THE CONFIGURABLE WELLNESS PROGRAM. IN GENERAL, THOSE ARE THE THE THREE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE APPROVED FOR TODAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THE CONFIGURABLE WELLNESS PLAN THAT WAS THE HIGHEST TIER OF WELLNESS PLAN. AND IT'S Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADOPT THAT. DO YOU THINK THAT ULTIMATELY SAVES THE PLAN MONEY? IT WILL SAVE THE PLAN MONEY. ULTIMATELY, THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT THAT WILL HELP US GUIDE EMPLOYEES TO THE RIGHT LEVEL OF CARE, WILL HELP GUIDE EMPLOYEES TO, AGAIN, WORK ON THEIR HEALTH STATUS, JUST IN GENERAL, BEFORE THINGS BECOME CHRONIC CONDITIONS. AND SO I FEEL LIKE 
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THAT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER PIECE. PLUS, IT HAS SOME TRACKING PIECES IN THERE. AND THE TOBACCO CESSATION PIECE, WHICH I THINK THE COMMITTEE REALLY, REALLY IS INTERESTED IN, IN IMPLEMENTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FEWER TOBACCO USERS IN GENERAL WITHIN THE COUNTY, COUNTY. AND SO, YES, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. THERE'S AN ROI GUARANTEE WITHIN THAT TOO. 
          SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT GUARANTEE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT FIRST SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE DIABETES AND THE OZEMPIC AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT'S ON THERE? YEAH, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO ASK A QUESTION HERE. SO LIKE ON THIS ONE, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, OR ON THE ONE THAT HAS THE PHARMACY, THE SPECIALTY MEDS, PHARMACEUTICAL. YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. DIABETES, AUTOIMMUNE, AUTOIMMUNE. YOU CAN'T DO A WHOLE LOT NECESSARILY WITH DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT AUTOIMMUNE CONDITION IS, BUT DIABETES IS INCREDIBLY HIGH FOR YOU. ALL HYPERTENSION, PULMONARY HYPERTENSION, MIGRAINES, WE CAN PROBABLY THERE'S SOME PIECES TO THOSE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP WITH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE STRESS RELATED MIGRAINES. THERE'S SOME PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST A SUSPICION. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE OPIOID CRISIS WAS WHERE EVERYBODY GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOW EVERYBODY'S LOSING THIS AS A WEIGHT LOSS TYPE PRODUCT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I MEAN, ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS GET A PRESCRIPTION FOR IT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO BUT THOSE NUMBERS OF THOSE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE REALLY HIGH INCREASING DON'T PAY FOR WEIGHT LOSS. AND YOU DON'T COVER IT FOR ANY OTHER INDICATORS. I KNOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST OKAY. I'M JUST THEY HAVE THEIR NUMBERS HAVE TO REFLECT THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'M JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAW THAT I WAS JUST LIKE, OH, BOY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THAT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A COST ON THE DOING THE PHARMACY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING? NO, THERE IS NO COST TO THOSE PROGRAMS. THAT'S JUST A SWITCH THAT THEY FLIP ON THERE. I WILL SAY THE FLEX ACCESS BLUECROSS TAKES A PERCENTAGE OF THE SAVINGS OFF THE COUPON, BUT YOU WON'T SEE THAT NECESSARILY. THAT'S JUST COMES OFF THE COST SAVINGS. SO IF THE COUPON IS $1,000, THEY THEY HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF THAT, THAT THEY TAKE THE SPLIT FILL PROGRAM. THERE'S NO COST TO THAT AT ALL. THERE'S NO COSTS AT ALL TO THOSE. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. YEAH. NO DIRECT COST TO THE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING OR ADJUSTING ANY EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION TODAY AT ALL. 
          CORRECT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS, BUT I THINK WE NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. IF THERE'S IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO ADOPT A BUDGET NUMBER NEXT WEEK OR HAVE A BUDGET NUMBER NEXT WEEK FOR COUNTY CONTRIBUTION PIECE, WHICH CHANGES WITH EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION PIECE WHEN WE GET INTO WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK. SO YEAH, I THINK WE DO NEED FEEDBACK ON THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. IF NOT FORMAL ACTION, THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK. I LIKE WHAT I HEARD EARLIER ABOUT NO INCREASE TO THE EMPLOYEE ON THAT. ON THE BOTTOM LINE, I GUESS IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. SO JULIE, MAYBE IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION PAGE. SO THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED. THIS HAS IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT ADOPTED. THIS REFLECTS PASSING ALONG ABOUT THE SAME PERCENTAGE INCREASE THAT THE PLAN IS SEEING TO THE EMPLOYEES, BUT AGAIN, HAS BEEN SCALED IN SUCH A WAY THAT, IF YOU'RE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A THE LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY IS ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR. AND ONCE YOU GET COST OF LIVING, YOUR COST OF LIVING INCREASE IS GOING TO BE LARGER THAN THE INCREASE WOULD BE. EVEN ON THE PPO FAMILY PLAN. SO NOBODY'S GOING TO TAKE A PAY CUT, BUT THERE ARE INCREASES AND THAT WILL ABSORB PART OF THAT COST FOR OFFSETTING, HOPEFULLY WITH THE COLA, IF THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED AS WELL. THAT'S THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A THAT'S YEAH. YEAH. IT'S NOT. YEAH. OKAY. WELL I WAS JUST LOOKING AND I'LL REMIND THE COURT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE PPO PLAN IS OUR MOST EXPENSIVE. IT'S THE ONE THAT COST US THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF MONEY. AGAIN, OUR EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, AS WE SURVEYED, WE WENT TO A STRICTLY ONLY HMO. WE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. EMPLOYEES SAID WHAT THEY WOULD PAY MORE IF WE COULD GO BACK TO PPO. WE HAVE THREE VERY GOOD PLANS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT REACHES LOTS OF EMPLOYEES, GAVE THEM LOTS OF OPTIONS. YES, THE PPO PLAN IS OUR HIGHEST COST TO US. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE LARGEST CHANGE IS $12 A PAY PERIOD. AGAIN, OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH TOLD US A WHILE BACK THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR PPO 
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BECAUSE AGAIN, AS A COUNTY THAT COST US QUITE A BIT, WE ARE NOT RESTRICTING OUR EMPLOYEES TO ALL GO BACK TO THE HMO OR GO TO THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. WE'RE GIVING OUR EMPLOYEES A VERY GOOD SELECTION OF WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO. YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION. I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS CONCERNING THIS CHART RIGHT HERE UNTIL WE SEE OUR WHOLE THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED DON'T REALLY TECHNICALLY NEED TO ADOPT THOSE RATES UNTIL WE'RE CLOSER TO OPEN ENROLLMENT. 
          WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE BUDGETED ENOUGH MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO PAY INTO THE INSURANCE PLAN. BUT THAT YEAH, THERE CAN ABSOLUTELY BE. THIS WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK AS WELL. AND COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT COLAS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THAT IS STILL CONTINGENT ON NUMBERS WE DON'T HAVE YET. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY SEVEN WORK DAYS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEDNESDAY TO GET THAT PUT TOGETHER AND BROUGHT BACK TO YOU GUYS. FOR THE ITEMS LISTED HERE, THE WELLNESS PROGRAM, THE PHARMACY PLAN. FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS, ARE THERE ANY HEARTBURN, ANY ISSUE WITH ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM HOLMES MURPHY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? NO. 
          FOR ME. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE ARE POSTED FOR ACTION. I WOULD I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ONLY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ON THE BUDGET PIECE, BUT ON THE WELLNESS PROGRAM AND THE PHARMACY PROGRAMS, IF I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON THOSE ITEMS. AND WE WERE TAKING THE THE PREMIUM PLAN ON THE, THE CONFIGURABLE PLAN ON THE WELLNESS. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THAT AS WELL AS THE PHARMACY PROGRAM HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE TODAY. RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BAILEY, SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WILLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. 
          THAT ITEM DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAVE ACCEPTED Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SOON WITH THE WELLNESS CONVERSATION. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO MORE WORKSHOP ITEMS. I DON'T THINK WE WILL SPEND MUCH TIME ON EITHER OF THESE. ITEM WS1 IS DISCUSSED PROPOSALS AND PROJECTS FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. ARPA FUNDING WITH POSSIBLE CONSULTATION WITH GRANTWORKS. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO REMAINING ARPA PROJECTS I. I HAVEN'T HEARD REALLY ANY UPDATES SINCE LAST COURT. I THINK THEY'RE BOTH TRUCKING ALONG AND ANTICIPATE FINISHING RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH ARPA THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE NO ACTION ON WORKSHOP ONE. WE'LL MOVE TO WORKSHOP 2WS2 DISCUSS PLANNING PROCESS FOR FUTURE PRECINCT THREE SUB COURTHOUSE, INCLUDING POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SITE PLAN. WE DIDN'T WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. WE'VE SENT THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO MR. DURHAM, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING BACK FROM HIM SINCE THEN. SO I THINK WE'RE IN A HOLDING PATTERN. I THINK THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE COMMISSIONER WHITE, YOU YOU GOT TO GO FIRST. 
          SO YEAH. BUT ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, UPDATES ON THAT ITEM. WHAT WAS THE WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH TXDOT LAST WEEK. WHAT DO YOU RECALL THE DETAILS OF THAT AS FAR AS THE ENTRYWAYS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, LARRY, BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT. FROM WHAT I RECALL, THE. WHEN WE TALKED WITH THE PERMIT COORDINATOR AND THE ASSISTANT ENGINEER OVER THERE, HE SAID THAT ONCE THEY CHANGE USE YOU PROBABLY THEY DO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE THOSE, THOSE ENTRYWAYS. AND THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP THAT MIDDLE, THAT MIDDLE ENTRYWAY. BUT WHEN I SAY MIDDLE, I MEAN THE ONE BETWEEN THE CURRENT ESD ENTRY AND WHERE YOU'RE THAT LITTLE, THE EASTERNMOST, BASICALLY THE ENTRANCE WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW, THE MAIN ONE, THE MAIN ENTRY. 
          YES, BUT WE CAN LEAVE, WE CAN WIDEN THE OTHER ONE AND USE IT AS CORRECT. CORRECT. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. YOU KNOW, HAVING US HAVING TWO THERE OR CONTINUING TO USE IT UNTIL WE CHANGE USE OF THAT BUILDING. YEAH. WE DIDN'T GET A REAL WARM FUZZY FROM THAT 
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CONVERSATION. I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE CROSSOVERS. YEAH. WHEN THEY MAKE THAT A DIVIDED HIGHWAY AND IT'S MAINLY IT MAINLY HAS TO COME DOWN TO OR DEAL WITH A SPACING ISSUE BETWEEN THE ESD ENTRANCE AND THE CURRENT MAIN ENTRANCE. THEY'RE PRETTY, PRETTY TIGHT TOGETHER. AND THAT IS THE THEY HAD THEY HAD A PRETTY LONG ARGUMENT TO EVEN PUT THAT ENTRANCE THERE. CORRECT. OKAY. BUT THE END RESULT WOULD STILL BE TWO ENTRANCES. WE WOULD STILL HAVE TWO ENTRANCES. IT. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO MOVE IT FURTHER EAST AND WIDEN IT OUT. AND THEN YOU COULD PUT A DRIVEWAY DOWN THAT WAY WITH I SURE DO. WE SURE NEED TO GET SOMETHING IN WRITING. WE REALLY DO. YES. IF THEY TRIED TO LIMIT US TO ONE ENTRANCE AND WE HAD FIRE TRUCKS AND 18 WHEELERS AND MOTOR GRADERS AND THE PUBLIC ALL ON ONE ROAD, THAT'S A DEATH TRAP. WOULD IT NOT BE BEST TO TRY TO WIDEN THAT MOST EAST ONE BEFORE WE BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE? AND IN OTHER WORDS, WE GET IT WIDE AND MAKE SURE WE GET IT WIDENED BEFORE THAT OTHER ONE IS TAKEN OUT. YEAH. JUST TALKING WITH THEM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH US. MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH US KEEPING THAT ENTRANCE OVER THERE, THE FAR MOST EASTERN ONE, AND WE COULD WIDEN IT WHENEVER WE GOT TO TO THAT POINT. WELL, ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE THEY'RE GOING TO LET YOU WIDEN IT THOUGH IS MY QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WIDEN IT NOW. MAKE SURE WE GET IT WIDENED BEFORE WE TAKE OUT. WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE WITH THE AREA OFFICE. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE WIDER. CORRECT. I MEAN, TRUCKS COME OUT OF IT, BUT IT'D BE HARD TO IF YOU WERE COMING FROM THE WEST, IT'D BE HARD TO TURN RIGHT INTO IT. YEAH. AMOUNT OF GROWTH IS COMING OVER THERE IN THAT AREA. 
          THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY OVER THERE, AND THAT DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT CROSSOVER AND WHERE THAT WHERE THAT SITE VISIBILITY IS COMING AROUND THAT CURVE, THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE QUESTIONING. IT'S NO, IT'S COMING OVER THE HILL. OVER THE HILL. RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. THEY WANT THEY LEANING TOWARDS WANTING TO PUT THE CROSS OVER AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO FIRE TRUCK CAN GO BOTH WAYS, WHICH I GET, BUT THAT PUTS YOU CLOSER TO THE HILL. YEAH. SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET THAT. WE NEED TO GET THAT IRONED DOWN. WE'LL HAVE A WE'LL SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT THAT. I ASSUME WOULD HAVING. 
          ARE THEY GOING TO WANT US TO HAVE A SITE PLAN BEFORE THEY COMMIT TO ANYTHING? IS THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF SITE PLAN PUT TOGETHER AND HAVE A PRETTY SOLID IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO IT, TO DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. I AGREE. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU, MR. FRIEDRICH. I THINK WE WERE FAIRLY CLOSE TO GETTING THAT SITE PLAN DONE WITH MR. DURHAM. SO MAYBE IF YOU CAN WORK WITH MR. SIBLEY AND MR. DURHAM AND MY OFFICE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, MAYBE WE CAN NAIL DOWN THE FINAL ISSUES TO GET SOMETHING BACK TO TEX. I'M SURE THEY'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY HAD SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, TO BILL'S POINT. BECAUSE LEADERSHIP CHANGES EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT, BUT AT LEAST GET THAT WIDENED OR SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO WIDEN THAT. NOW, IS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS OVER THERE? AND I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE KIND OF TELL THEM LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WE'RE INTENDING ON MAKING THIS OUR PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR THAT SIDE IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. WHEN I BOUGHT THAT FACILITY OUT THERE WHERE I AM TO GET THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE IN OVER THERE, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT JUST WENT ON AND ON AND ON. AND WE ENDED UP GETTING A VARIANCE FROM 450 TO LIKE 410FT. AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND ALLOWED IT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU. DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF DAY YOU'RE COMING THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, 90 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC THAT SEEMS TO USE THAT ROAD. IT'S A RISK. YES, SIR. IT'S A RISK GETTING OUT SOMETIMES ON THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE. WE DON'T USE IT VERY MUCH. WE DON'T USE IT EVERY DAY. YEP. THEY'RE THEY'RE DEFINITELY STICKLERS FOR THEIR THEIR SPACING REQUIREMENTS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE COMPLICATED THINGS WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ANYTHING RELATED TO WS2. THAT CONCLUDES THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO IF THERE IS NO
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